Talk:Giovanni Gentile
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Gentile = not a socialist[edit]
As Gentile was an early philosopher of Fascism, classifying him as a socialist in the lead when 1: Fascism is a direct counter to socialism, 2: No mention of his alleged socialist ties are made in the article, and 3: The only source that calls Gentile a socialist is from a fringe right-wing website, there is no question that the moniker "socialist" does not belong in the lead or in the article at all. Etzedek24 (Would it kill ya to leave an edit summary?) 18:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- A. James Gregor's detailed article from the esteemed Journal of the History of Ideas (among countless other sources that you've hidden away as "forum-like discussion") says otherwise... or at least shows how deeply Gentile was influenced by Marx and socialism. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2707846 You're blocking literally all attempts to bring this fact to light. Your political bias is showing. Be objective. Bzzzing (talk) 16:56, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with Bzzzing. It is no coincidence that Giovanni Gentile - the creator of fascism, was openly inspired by the likes of Marx and the article will be updated to show this, as it used to.Glaaaastonbury88 (talk) 08:16, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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Correct. François Robere (talk) 18:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC) |
- If we're talking about World Net Daily, this has been found to be unreliable over and over at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, most recently (afaik) at RS/N Archive 113 also at (1, 2, 3, 4). If you wanted an updated opinion on this, you could open a request at WP:RS/N quoting these links, and asking whether this consensus still holds. Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 09:47, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
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::It's common to avoid talking about it, because it's uncomfortable to many people... but Gentile absolutely was a socialist. His views openly talk about it... he even quotes Marx repeatedly. Also, the view that "Fascism is a direct counter to socialism" is not technically correct... it's what's called "folk wisdom". The economics of Gentile's Fascism are an almost exact copy of Marx's socialism. I know there will be a great deal of argument here, but you simply need to read his work. Bzzzing (talk) 01:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
RfC re: sourcing of socialist claim[edit]
Isn't really any need of an RfC right now, as of yet, as outlined by Mathglot Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:30, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Should [http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/fascisms-karl-marx-man-the-left-doesnt-want-you-to-meet/ WorldNetDaily] be considered a credible source for calling Gentile a socialist in the lead? Gentile's alleged socialist ties are not discussed at any other point in the WP article. Etzedek24 (Would it kill ya to leave an edit summary?) 00:15, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Bad Source[edit]the part about his death sources the Italian Wikipedia page. Citing a wikipedia page is against Wikipedia editing guidelines, thus this should be edited to either have a different citation, or to change the information entirely. Comradeka (talk) 03:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC) |
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