Talk:Bourbon whiskey

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The phrase "in general"[edit]

For some reason this editor has removed an innocuous edit, and won't explain their rationale. Is there an inherent problem with adding "in general" when associating Bourbon with the south? It is associated with the US as a whole outside of the US, being a "protected brand".That man from Nantucket (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the sentence works either way. I used to want to include "in general" (and it might have been me that put it there originally), but it doesn't really seem necessary. I do tend to like it because it provides some symmetry with the following phrase "in particular". If the phrase is included, I don't think there should be a comma before the "in general" (and there isn't a comma before "in particular"). As a more substantial issue about that same sentence, I wonder if it's really true that bourbon is especially associated with the South. Kentucky is really more of a border state than a southern state, and almost all of it (about 95%) comes from Kentucky (and that's mostly from the northern part of Kentucky, I think). A lot of what's left comes from MGP of Indiana, which is farther north than that. Depending on your definition of bourbon, there are also some producers in Tennessee, but they don't call it bourbon, and Tennessee is also Upland South, not Deep South. There's practically no bourbon made in the Deep South, so what's the association with the South? Is it consumed more there than in the North? —BarrelProof (talk) 22:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is particularly about consumption, and a general association of bourbon with southern cuisine and other aspects of southern culture. Yeah, Kentucky is Upland South, but that's still southern in culture, which is the idea being expressed. That said, having both "in general" and "in particular" in the same sentence is pretty redundant and unneeded, so it's fine to leave it out. oknazevad (talk) 22:41, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Barrels" versus "containers"[edit]

Someone just changed the description of aging from referring to "barrels" to referring to "containers" – and rightly so, it appears. The law does seem to say "containers", not "barrels", although I think the containers are barrels in actual practice. The only mention of barrels in the law is something allowing labels to refer to government supervision of the production process in specific cases. I've never heard of someone using a non-barrel container to age bourbon (although I'm no expert). Does anyone have insight over why the law says "containers" rather than "barrels"? —BarrelProof (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Conceivably the container could have a different shape, so the law is broadly worded to include all of the possibilities. At least that's my guess. That said, no one uses anything but barrels, because barrels are a superior container for transportation of liquids. Hence oil barrels. oknazevad (talk) 16:46, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Charcoal Filtering[edit]

Many bourbons use a charcoal filtering process similar (or identical) to that used for Tennessee and this ought be mentioned and described.

Drsruli (talk) 23:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, they're not identical. The Lincoln County process is a filtering of the new-make spirit before barrel aging, while the charcoal filtering mentioned on some bourbon bottles is after aging as part of the bottling process. That filtering is simply removing unwanted solids and fatty eaters that can cloud a drink. It's not the same thing. oknazevad (talk) 02:28, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are different kinds of filtering, as you say. Sometimes, it is the same thing.

HOWEVER, this could (and should) be something discussed in the article.

Drsruli (talk) 02:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]