Talk:Kurama (YuYu Hakusho)

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Article[edit]

That thing about the BuKurmi needs to be on a seperate page. Sweetfreek 01:16, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't understand, what are you referring to? Plus±Minus 21:19, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, this article took the incorrect assumption that Youko was influencing everything from the beginning. Something like that would be impossible to confirm, and thus does not belong.

I made some really drastic changes to the information. It no longer needs expansion, so the notice can be taken off now. Flying Shadow 11:44, 24 Nov 2005

I made the attack section by using my Dvds from my collection that had the information for three hours to get all the attack names, both English and Japanese. From 24.20.153.45 on November 27.

There is some wrong info on here. In Ep where Hiei fight the guy that put in his eye. It is shown that the surgeon was the guy who attacked and killed Kurama...Not some "Bounty Hunter" Irishgt 21:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed alot of somewhat inaccurate/incomplete information on the page (or is it just because i've became a Kurama otaku?). I've got these information from watching the Chinese subbed anime (not the slipshot effort that goes around the net but something better that came from my tv channel) twice.
1, The "bounty hunter" part is incorrect, but it's not the surgeon (in fact, youko and him never met before their battle in Makai tournament... I think you've mixed up Hiei's flashbacks) but the Renkai Special Forces (i'll add in more details/evidence later).
2, It is interesting how the author seperate Youko and Shuichi as 2 seperate beings in the same body, but that is not actually the case. Kurama (now) is both Minamino Shuichi and Kurama both, and he used to be only Youko, but the seemingly complete seperation of the 2 like described in this article isn't right... I'll check the manga on this since the anime doesn't seem to explain anything completely.
3, Concerning the Forlon Hope (or Mirror of Darkness as I know it) in the anime, Yuusuke didn't offer his life in place of Kurama's. It's the same as in the manga where he wanted to split the cost of life energy (split the cost? yes that's what friends do ^_^) But then i guess the English anime changed some lines
4, The The Reverse Treasure Box was supposed to turn Kurama into a state before birth, not baby form, so it's working correctly. So because Kurama was a Youko before being born as a human baby, of course he became Youko
5, The Okunenju Tree was not really his "attack". Rather, he planted Sakura seeds in the roots of the ancient fossil tree and revived it so that the tree's branches can be used to attack (not roots! they have sakura flowers growing on them!)
Ok i've written alot. I'd have edited the page myself but somehow i always get to a blank editing page when i try to edit sections and the disambiguation page when i try to edit the entire thing. Going to try again later at home. --Hikari no sakura 09:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I saw the entire seires in English and during the Chapter Black saga, one of the Spirit World Fighters boasted that he once "cornered Yoko Kurama". I'm not sure if he was the person who killed him though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.194.236.133 (talk) 23:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Dvd's have a subtitle system that follows the Japanese version in the original volume releases they also had one that followed the English Version, although I don't know if they still had that option in the current sets that are being distributed. But the problem with the Funimation version is that they tend to change plot material in certain parts of the episodes. -Adv193 00:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Personality[edit]

Most of the information here is just opinion or things that cannot be confirmed, such as the part about Kurama's wisdom coming from Youko, and the mentions of romance or vanity doesn't seem relevant at all. I've fixed a bit, but it should be changed to include only what can be observed and reasonably inferred from the series.

Grammar[edit]

This page has quite a few grammatical errors. I'm trying to fix it up, but it's hard for me to do without rewriting most of the paragraph... Plus±Minus 20:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I edited it up to Chapter Black, someone else might have to add that part since I missed quite a few of those episodes. Plus±Minus 21:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also started editing the attacks. I'll finish later if someone else doesn't do it.

Inu-Yasha connection?[edit]

This is something I've long been wondering about. I think Yoko Kurama looks A LOT like Inu-Yasha. More bishounen-looking, of course, but still very Inu-Yasha-like. Did Rumiko Takahashi ever read/watch "Yu Yu Hakusho", and did she draw inspiration from Yoko Kurama? Brutannica 23:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a forum. Lord Sesshomaru 20:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning Yomi[edit]

I feel that there needs to be an article about Yomi. I personally do not know much about him outside of the fanon, so if anyone could begin an article about him, I think it would be much appriciated.

    • True. Unfortunately, articles for most of the main characters need a lot of major re-writing and editing still, so while I don't mind volunteering for the article, I'd like to prioritize the main character pages first. Yomi is open to anyone who's interested in starting up the article if I haven't gotten around to it yet, though. Mirshariff 10:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think that the personality section is too large and needs to be trimmed down since it practically is giving away some of the plot that is mentioned in the History section. -Adv193 15:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Trivia Problem[edit]

Regarding the claim that fox demons are usually evil in Asian folklore: wrong. Even just looking up the wiki on "kitsune" aka fox spirits will provide a plethora of examples and sources that show that the fox demons are actually considered good omens, albeit suspicious in the sense that they lack human morals. Also, the vampiric or succibi-esque aspects are incorrect as a generalization -- those qualities exist from time to time, yes, but are not the 'norm' for fox demons. Someone want to remedy this? For the moment I'm just going to cut the incorrect info.

Trivia?[edit]

How about if the "Cultural References" section is renamed the "Trivia" section? I think the info fits in that better. I'll change it, and if all chaos breaks loose, it can be changed back. Clevomon 17:53 EST, 25 December 2006

Beginning section[edit]

I know there's been some back and forth about this, but the section about Youko and Shuichi being different people I find bordering on opinion, since in my memory it's never clearly established either way. The phrasing their makes it sound like they are multiple personalities, when I was more under the impression that Kurama is the spiritual entity while Shuichi is the human name of the body that he inhabits. Every time I see that section I strikes me as bordering on opinion. Katsuhagi 16:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

Personality sections[edit]

Why does this article have two 'Personality'-sections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.241.23 (talkcontribs) 03:24, 8 August 2007

  • Thanks for pointing that out; I just finished removing it. -- SilentAria talk 19:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 22:30, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that Kurama's early portrayal in the YuYu Hakusho anime was critcized for being voiced by a woman in Japan? Source: [1]

Created by Tintor2 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:13, 17 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I finished the review of Quasar Data Products so this can be reviewed.Tintor2 (talk) 22:13, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    • I put your reviewed DYK in the correct part of the form so it's easier to see. Anyway, I will be reviewing this. Article was expanded 5 times and nominated within the last 7 days of expansion. It has at least 1,500 characters in prose. Article is sourced properly but relies a lot on primary sources. The section "In other media" does not provide any sources at all. Earwig found a 3.8% chance of copyright violation. Some grammar errors are there but they do not affect nomination. QPQ fulfilled. All hooks seem interesting but primarily seem to rely on offline primary sources. Are there any other alternate sources you can provide? lullabying (talk)01:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: I'm afraid none of those sources have an alternate one other than fansites that archive this content This site archived almost every interview complete with complete official source. I know I can't use the fansite as the source so I ended using the archives they mentioned.Tintor2 (talk) 21:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I accept sources in good faith then, seeing as you did show me the original clippings of the interviews. ALT2 would be a better choice in my opinion as the original ALT focuses too much on controversy. "In other media" is still not sourced. lullabying (talk) 09:21, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good to go with ALT2. Offline sources accepted in good faith. lullabying (talk) 01:44, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reword ALT2 as ALT2b: ... that the character Kurama was inspired by a friend of manga creator Yoshihiro Togashi? lullabying (talk) 01:45, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Thanks for thesome review. Merry Christmas

References

  1. ^ Yu Yu Hakusho 2009 Blu-Ray Booklet. Pierrot. 2009.
  2. ^ "Kurama's model is a real person!". Weekly Shounen Jump. No. 35. Shueisha. 1991.
  3. ^ "Interview: Yoshihiro Togashi". Shonen Jump. 1 (5). San Francisco, CA: Viz Media. May 2003.

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kurama (YuYu Hakusho)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TeenAngels1234 (talk · contribs) 09:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. So it begins.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 09:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • "As the next arcs which primarily relied on action much to Togashi's pressure, Kurama became a prominent fighter". I would suggest rewriting the sentence with more commas, different consecutio temporum and more clearly. Something like (don't take it literally): "As the next arcs, which primarily relieve on action, Kurama became a prominent fighter much to Togashi's pressure".
  • I would add a summary of Reception in the incipit.
  • ""the typical "desu ne (ですね)"". Inverted commas are missing. It should be italicised for Japanese. In the nihongo template, the translation is missing.
  • ""Youko Minamino"". Why the inverted commas? This does not seem to be the guideline. Also, I would add a wlink. Even if the article isn't there, it's not a problem.

"There were other surname candidates such as the Japanese celebrities Minamida, Ishino and Gushiken whose first names are also Youko".

  • "There were other surname candidates such as the Japanese celebrities Minamida, Ishino and Gushiken whose first names are also Youko". I would add a few commas, such as ", such as" and ", whose first name".
  • "and considers Hiei to be her favorite". It is stricly necessary?

@Tintor2: Good work.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC) @TeenAngels1234: Revised the notes. Thanks for the review.Tintor2 (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • How come Human World is capitalised? Are we sure this is correct?
    • They call it Human World but revise.
  • I would present Hei, Goki and especially the tree Underwolrd treasures better. Also 'two guys called', 'jewels called', or similar things would be enough.
  • There is a parenthesis at the end of the paragraph, but I would put the anime issue in a separate sentence.
  • Present other subjects better too. For example 'of the entities called Four Beasts'.
  • I would move the comment on Kishimoto to the end of the paragraph.
  • Designer Mari Kitayama's comment seems superfluous to me.

@Tintor2: That's all. Forgive me if I am always a little slow.TeenAngels1234 (talk) 11:04, 5 March 2023 (UTC) @TeenAngels1234: Revised everythingTintor2 (talk) 13:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, then. Good prose. Article clear to me, and I have never seen the anime. Short, but comprehensive enough. Excellent sources in line with the WProject Anime guides. Passing.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 19:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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