Talk:Abba Eban

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The date of his death is questioned in a letter I received: Not November 16, 2002, but November 17 would be right. An article in Le Monde (from November 20) is cited in the letter. Could somebody please look this up? --Kurt Jansson 17:38, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

chronological ambiguity

"Having decided to remain in Israel, Eban changed his name to the more Hebrew-sounding Abba (however it was seldom used informally). He was Israel's first representative to the United Nations, where he was successful in attaining UN approval for the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab segments — Resolution 181."

In the first sentence, I would suggest a change from Israel to Palestine (or the Palestine Mandate, British Mandate of Palestine), since at this point in time the State of Israel still several years off.

This same problem holds in the second sentence. The UN Partition Plan of 1947 (UN Res. 181) preceded the state of Israel (declared 1948). As currently worded, the sentence indicates that the State of Israel, with Abba Eban as its representative, was involved in the formulation of Resolution 181. I don't know the history well enough to rephrase it (that is, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head what role Eban had in formulating/pushing through Resolution 181), but as it currently stands it is misleading.

Aubrey Solomon Meir 1947_UN_Partition_Plan 29 November 1947

What was the name change date??

Thank You,

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"Abba Eban . . . born Abba Solomon Meir . . . later Aubrey Solomon Eban" . . ."he changed his name to . . . Abba". But he was born Abba, it said earlier. Are you sure he wasn't born Aubrey and later was Abba? 108.205.30.247 (talk) 13:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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Born Aubrey Eban. See this page: http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Abba_Eban.html There is *clearly* a mistake, here, but there is no way to edit that portion of the page. Can anyone help? 66.45.41.84 (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC) D.I.S. 03-21-2013

The cited page (www.princeton.edu/~achaney...) isn't an independent source; it's explicitly copied from Wikipedia! Linguistatlunch (talk) 20:19, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

References

The 'Palestine' debate in UK parliament...

I will end by quoting something that was said by Abba Eban, who was Israel’s first representative at the UN and its Foreign Minister. He said this about the 1967 aftermath: “The Jewish people fail to understand that there was something contractual in our entry into the world. We promised to share the territory. The present position (that is occupation of the Palestinian territories) is a deviation from our birth. I never knew of a country that could successfully throw its birth certificate away”.

For "Fail to understand" [Leftists think they have a superior grasp of reality when in fact they are completely out of touch with reality] read: have better judgement of their indefatigable foe and a truthful grasp of history. There is no 'promise' to share 'the territory', quite the opposite! The 'birth certificate' is not only the Torah and Koran (5:20-21) but the international law and treaty of San Remo, Mandate, Montevideo Convention and UN charter article 80. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.167.3 (talk) 12:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Date of move

Eban seems to have moved to London in 1916, when he was about one year of age. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.70.252 (talk) 15:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Wit

He was known for witty remarks. I very much like the story of when he was complemented on his perfect Oxford English and replied "Cambridge actually, but in politics one expects to be smeared". Sadly I can't find a source for this on the web. Any ideas? NBeale (talk) 08:54, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

@NBeale: I know it's a year late but I found this: [1] Sir Joseph ^(talk) 19:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

@Sir Joseph: Thanks. Well I;ve made the edit though I'll have to trust you because I don't have the book. Can you give the page no? NBeale (talk) 20:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't have the book either. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Do you guys have the seniority to edit on the Oxford-Cambridge conflict? Actually, though this insertion is rather harmless, such a come-back is more or less compulsory for someone from Oxford or Cambridge who is accused of being from the other place. It is very unlikely that he invented it himself. Zero^talk 23:46, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

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