Talk:Martin Rimm

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To User:Remuel -- I did look through Category:Pornography-related_stubs before re-classifying as a regular stub. Please justify your reasoning. <>< tbc 23:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


  • This article is taken word for word from Barry Glassner's book "The Culture of Fear."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.236.35.49 (talkcontribs) 21:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Problems with this article[edit]

This article is unacceptably bad.

  1. Despite the title, this is not a biographical article. (See WP:BLP.)
    It should be moved to something like "1995 cyberporn controversy".
  2. "... gained notoriety in 1995 while an undergraduate ..."
    No, he was a grad student when the controversy erupted.
  3. "Prior to the publication of Rimm's research ..."
    Non-chronological order harms readability.
  4. "The story highlighted a particular conclusion claimed by Rimm that ..."
    No, the story deliberately did not highlight Rimm's claim that ...
  5. "Rimm's findings were quickly attacked by civil libertarians who insisted that they were seriously flawed."
    Cited to one (very good) article by one civil libertarian (Mike Godwin) pointing out serious flaws.
    Need to find more sources, change to singular or rewrite.
  6. "[Senator Grassley] is on record misinterpreting Rimm's data ..."
    True, but WP:OR. We need a secondary source here, especially since Grassley is a living person.
  7. The first External link, http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/CyberPorn/, is to a page attacking Rimm and Elmer-DeWitt on Brad Cox's personal website. That's not acceptable.
  8. The links to www.eff.org are all dead and should be changed to use the Internet Archive. (Start here).

Given the quality of Rimm's research, it is natural that many usenet users were outraged by the Time story and the law review article. It seems to me that this article reflects that outrage rather than Wikipedia rules. I plan to fix that by renaming and rewriting the article. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions? Particularly for the new title? Cheers, CWC 00:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I merged to Internet pornography#Usenet Groups. CWC was right, this was a poor article. Rimm was not notable, a classic WP:BLP1E. He even changed his name and disappeared from the public eye. Fences&Windows 20:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]