Talk:Book of Genesis

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Book of Genesis article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4: 3 months

Book of Genesis was nominated as a Philosophy and religion good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (November 26, 2017). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

Religion: Interfaith High‑importance

	Religion portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is within the scope of Interfaith work group, a work group which is currently considered to be inactive.

Christianity Top‑importance

	Christianity portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Christianity, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Christianity on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChristianityWikipedia:WikiProject ChristianityTemplate:WikiProject ChristianityChristianity articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Bible Top‑importance

	Bible portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Bible, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Bible on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BibleWikipedia:WikiProject BibleTemplate:WikiProject BibleBible articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Religious texts (defunct)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religious texts, a project which is currently considered to be defunct.Religious textsWikipedia:WikiProject Religious textsTemplate:WikiProject Religious textsReligious texts articles

Judaism High‑importance

	Judaism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Judaism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Judaism-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JudaismWikipedia:WikiProject JudaismTemplate:WikiProject JudaismJudaism articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Ancient Near East Top‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ancient Near East, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ancient Near East related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Ancient Near EastWikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Near EastTemplate:WikiProject Ancient Near EastAncient Near East articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Books

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate in the project, please visit its page, where you can join the project and discuss matters related to book articles. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the relevant guideline for the type of work.BooksWikipedia:WikiProject BooksTemplate:WikiProject BooksBook articles

Most mainstream Bible scholars??[edit]

Who are these MOST Mainstream Bible Scholars please? Who and how did someone calculated this please? Do we have sources and citation please? By doing so, are we recommending people about what to believe and what not? Also, Why can't we say what's Christian's belief of the book of Genesis? - Common... it's a Christian Book and not Mainstream Scholars Book! Praveen.arokyaswamy (talk) 03:30, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

POV-pushing for your own religion (which does not seem to be mainstream Christianity, but fundamentalist Christianity) is very much not appreciated as a matter of website policy, see WP:RNPOV.

Yup, many Christians don't know there is such a thing as liberal Christianity, but if forced to choose camps, most Christians in the world would choose its camp.

You can fool yourself that I'm the Big Bad Wolf who ruins everything Christian at Wikipedia, or you can accept an explanation which is more compliant with Occam's razor, namely that the powers of WP:BESTSOURCES are opposing you. In fact, everybody should know that at Wikipedia editors who merely push their own POV are very easy to defeat. Editors who simply push a POV get contained, at a certain point they will rebel against containment measures, so they will misbehave, and they will get blocked and then banned. tgeorgescu (talk) 04:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Why can't we say what's Christian's belief of the book of Genesis" Because Christians are not a reliable source with a reputation for fact-checking. They are instead known for their belief in hoaxes. Dimadick (talk) 08:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"it's a Christian Book" Wow, your anti-semitism is evident. This is a book about Jewish mythology, likely written by Jews. Dimadick (talk) 08:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

I don't think that the article needs the "Title" chapter, as the first paragraph already tells the reader to etmyology of Genesis. Feel free to tell me otherwise. Firesword9140 (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revert[edit]

I have reverted an edit which is thoroughly WP:FRINGE, i.e. pseudohistory. tgeorgescu (talk) 13:43, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's totally fine. Thanks for keeping up with these edits and reverting when necessary. Hist9600 (talk) 14:24, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Another IP, possibly the same person, had added the same information yesterday, and I had to correct it. It seems someone may be actively watching the page to insert these dates. Ltwin (talk) 16:33, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, both geolocate to Adelaide, Australia. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Sea study and date of composition[edit]

I just noticed and removed the following from the Composition section:

By comparing Dead Sea level indications in chapter 14 of Genesis Amos Frumkin and Yoel Elitzur suggest the composition dating between 1500 and 1200 BC.^[1]

After checking the article out, I believe this is a misreading of the article. The study authors were attempting to use biblical evidence to determine historical fluctuations in the Dead Sea levels. I don't think they are making definitive statements about when biblical books were actually composed. I could be wrong, however, so I'm leaving this here for other editors to evaluate. Ltwin (talk) 21:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Amos Frumkin; Yoel Elitzur (May 2002). "Historic Dead Sea Level Fluctuations Calibrated with Geological and Archaeological Evidence". Quaternary Research. 57 (3): 336. Bibcode:2002QuRes..57..334F. doi:10.1006/qres.2002.2330. S2CID 129375298.

Wiki Education assignment: Criticism as Praxis[edit]

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 February 2024 and 24 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Keegancroteau12 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Keegancroteau12 (talk) 04:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Amos Frumkin; Yoel Elitzur (May 2002). "Historic Dead Sea Level Fluctuations Calibrated with Geological and Archaeological Evidence". Quaternary Research. 57 (3): 336. Bibcode:2002QuRes..57..334F. doi:10.1006/qres.2002.2330. S2CID 129375298.

[1]