Talk:Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America

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2005 page move[edit]

I've moved this page in accordance with the archdiocese's actual name. --Preost 21:36, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

Given the recent power struggle and demotion of the diocesan bishops to auxiliaries, I have updated the wiki's wording in one section. I haven't done anything with Bishop Mark's name on there since I am unsure how he should be described now. He isn't Bishop of the Antiochian Orthodox Diocese of Toledo and the Midwest anymore, but is he still technically an Antiochian bishop until he is received (hopefully) by the OCA? On a related note, should the whole episode of the change in the bishops' status be mentioned in the article? 99.67.162.194 (talk) 02:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Undid the change. There has been no official announcement of any change to the status of the bishops. I'm aware of the rumors but we can't change the page based on rumors. The archdiocese official website still speaks of Dioceses with Diocesan Bishops, e.g. [1]. Mrhsj (talk) 02:57, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While I can see not wanting to update the wiki until the archdiocese releases the formal documentation regarding the bishops' demotion (and think waiting is probably a wiser choice), these are not exactly rumors. Bishop Mark is indeed no longer Bishop of Toledo and the Midwest and the verification for this is available on the archdiocese's website in the directive issued yesterday by the Metropolitan. The fact that Auxiliary Bishop Thomas is now locum-tenens of the diocese should be reflected in the article. Note that the wording used to describe Bishop Mark's eventual successor is, surprise surprise, "auxiliary bishop".[2] 99.67.162.194 (talk) 18:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The official announcement from the metropolitan regarding the demotion of the bishops is now available on the archdiocesan website. Directive 13 on the document states that "All Auxiliary Bishops shall always identify themselves, either on their respective letterhead or in any other manner, as "Auxiliary Bishop" and in no other manner."[3]. It will no doubt take time for the rest of the archdiocesan website to be updated to reflect the new titles.99.67.162.194 (talk) 23:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay it's been about two months since this discussion, and I still see no sign of the bishops being styled "Auxiliary Bishop" on the official website of the archdiocese, or on any of the websites of the dioceses. It seems to me that we jumped the gun here in trying to anticipate how we think the bishops are going to be referred to offically, rather than reflecting how they are actually referred to. Throughout the official websites I see only references to "Bishop JOSEPH," "Bishop THOMAS" etc. Shouldn't we change the text back to reflect actual current usage? Mrhsj (talk) 22:52, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is still the case that on antiochian.org the bishops are styled "Bishop Antoun," "Bishop Basil" etc. and never "Auxiliary Bishop Antoun" etc. Changed page to match this usage. Mrhsj (talk) 22:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates[edit]

Eh? This is a residential street corner in South Plainfield, NJ. By what evidence is it the location of an Archdiocis? Jim.henderson (talk) 16:39, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox needs to be corrected[edit]

I believe the Independence and Recognition sections should be removed from the infobox. While the Archdiocese is styled as "self-ruled", it is not independent per se. "Independent" implies autocephaly, or at least autonomy like unto the Japanese Orthodox Church, but the Church of Antioch does not recognize it as such, nor does the Archdiocese claim to be.

For that matter, the Possessions section should be removed. USA and Canada are possessions of the Church of Antioch, not of the Archdiocese—for the same reason.

I'm going to plan to restructure the infobox to bring it more into line with other Orthodox archdioceses unless a compelling argument to the contrary can be brought.

99.24.170.188 (talk) 18:55, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've made some of these changes and some others to the infobox. 99.24.170.188 (talk) 19:58, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Autonomy[edit]

Is the "Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America" autonomous or semi-autonomous? If it is, is it not fully recognized? I see some lists include it as Autonomous, but others not even list it as semi-autonomous (ie. the main Template:Eastern Orthodox Church) . What is the current status? Whatever the answer, the different articles on Orthodoxy should be updated to reflect the one consensus on this issue. Coquidragon (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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