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Generation 9/11 was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 28 December 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Generation Z. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
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Sentence about alleged hypocrisy of gen-z regarding climate change.[edit]
“However, their consumption choices reveal a gap between their stated values and their activism.”
Hi this sentence above does not seem to be NPOV and in line with the article. It greatly oversimplifies the values of climate activism. Which is often protesting government and business actions more than individual ones. And equates consumerism to climate change, there is of course a link but it is strongly extrapolated here. The sources link to “fast fashion” which contributes to climate change but is has a tiny footprint in relation to total co2e emissions.
Personally I would either remove the sentence or replace it with one more in line with WP:NPOV would be something like.
“Despite this, generation-Z is an avid consumer of fast fashion, an industry which contributes to climate change.” YannLK (talk) 13:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, that sentence is fine as it is. Public opinion polls are notoriously vulnerable to the Social-desirability bias. Economists look at actual purchasing choices which reveal people's true preferences. Nerd271 (talk) 16:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The claim is made that people in gen-z’s “stated values” are different to their “activism”. However it would be more accurate to say that generation-z’s consumer choices are not always in line with their activism.
Here are the 3 sources behind the original sentence which I do not think are sufficient to back the claim atleast from a polisci sociology views
An editorialised economist article arguining that despite many market preferences that make gen-z “greener” they also have market preferences that risk more pollution than previous generations
An editorialised “The Week” article that argues that fast fashion goes against the fact that gen-z is praised as being very eco-concious
A guardian piece that argues the same as (2.)
I understand that “stated value” may mean something different in economics. But given the section is about politics, readers will be most likely interpreting the term from a political science or sociology view.
I really think saying something along the lines of “However generation-z’s consumer choices are not always in line with their activism.” would be far less prone to misinterpretation from readers especially given this is not an article in economics. YannLK (talk) 17:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article concerns multiple topics, including culture, society, economics, and politics. We are, after all, talking about an entire demographic cohort. Nerd271 (talk) 14:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Therefore it should not use the term “stated value” in a way that would be considered untrue from the POV of a reader unfamiliar with what you claim stated value means in economics. (I have looked up stated value in economics and it seems to be more a term used to mean the value of a financial asset anyways.) YannLK (talk) 20:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Different words have different meanings in different contexts. Here, the word "values" refers to their social and political views. The context makes this meaning the obvious choice. There is a gap between their stated (sociopolitical) values, as least as reported by popular media, and their purchasing decisions. Nerd271 (talk) 15:13, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Some older members of Generation Z are also parents to younger members of Generation Alpha. Nathalia19 (talk) 00:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]