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Caution: there's no apostrophe in St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington D.C. It's like Finnegans Wake or Princes Gate.--PRiis 06:13, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Moved here from article[edit]

"Abandonment" is s misleading description of the District's assuming control of St. E'. from the Federal government. Because the hospital had, since the end of World War II, been treating primarily District residents, the District had more of a proprietary interest in the hospital than the did the Federal government. Federal mental health patients were increasingly and primarily being treated in other Federal facilities, and the increase of health insurance coverages led people to other treatment centers. The District did not, however, take on the hospital with open arms. They insisted upon as much financial support as they could get. As for who owns the hospital now, the east side of the campus is fully a District property. The District was given opportunity to propose uses for the west campus, but has never come up with an accetable plan. Consequently, the west side is still Federal property. There is no argument that the grounds and buildings have become seriously degraded. An earlier Superintendent had planted tree specimens from all over the world on the grounds. A later Assistant Superintendent took on as his contribution, among many others, the placing of plaques on the many trees identifying them and their origin. The west side of the campus should be maintained as an historical property; it's buildings could favorably used as educational facilities; the theatre should be run by a local group for the benefit of DC citizens; and all persons should be allowed on the grounds to take in the fabulous view from "the Point."--138.88.88.22 01:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)Jane S. Jones, j2jonesdc@aol.com --138.88.88.22 01:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC) (moved by JDG 13:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

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Kenyon cell discoverer was in the asylum?[edit]

Did a little page on kenyon cells - neurons of insect's brain. Wanted to look who are they named after; found his name in more detail; did a search for "Frederick C. Kenyon" - found only this article at N.Y.Times: A Washington doctor insane - "F.C.Kenyon, a scientist, is committed to the St. Elizabeths Insane Asylum". Would be interested to know in more detail about him, to add to the "Kenyon cell" article; maybe do a stub about him - at least he did advance the study of nervous system.. CopperKettle (talk) 17:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Upped a couple of images[edit]

These are, as caption says, made in the Hospital. --CopperKettle 19:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Erminio Costa[edit]

I've added the mention about him on St Elizabeth's article page so that at least one page will link to his article, in order to increase the connectivity. He worked in the hospital for a number of years. The mention was deleted as "trivia". Was this right? --CopperKettle 07:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The mention of him in this article is made almost in passing, includes no details about his career or work at the hospital and no information about who he actually is, or his notoriety. Also, the article on Costa is a stub and little more than a resume. Why mention only him out of the innumerable people that worked at the hospital? If you want to add him back in, I'd suggest expanding the section to discuss his work and research at the hospital rather than just saying he worked there. Sottolacqua (talk) 15:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K., I understand; If I find something specific on his work in the hospital, I'll add. Best regards, --CopperKettle 17:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

address change[edit]

hey everyone. not sure if anyone else knows this, but the mailing address to the hospital has changed. it used to be 2700 Dr Martin Luther King Jr Av SE. the new address (for both sides, east and west) for both sides of the campus is now 1100 Alabama Avenue SE. due to the massive construction and the adding of DHS to the campus, the main entrance and address has changed. i dont have a picture of the main entrance, but the next time im in the area ill snag one and put it on there. Im changing the address, and putting a link to the reference behind the address. The only reference to this that i could find online is actually already listed as a reference in the article. it is here: (from the DC Dept of mental health website on St E's Hospital)- http://dmh.dc.gov/dmh/cwp/view,a,3,q,516064.asp

look at the bottom of that page. you will see the new address there. if i find any more references ill add them on the page as well. the reason why im writing this is so that everyone knows why i made the change, and so a revert war doesnt erupt about a trivial fact. feel free to reply with any questions, ill be happy to answer it if i can.

they are in the process of shutting down the east sides main entrance from king avenue, so the new "main" entrance is on the alabama av side of the east campus. im also in the process of changing the address on the list of historic and national registered places pages on wikipedia, because a couple more have the old address listed, and i will copy and paste this talk section to those pages as well to avoid any confusion. have a nice day! thank you all for your time. MACKDIESEL5 (talk) 23:09, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Bureau of Mines, Department of Interior[edit]

This may or may not be important enough to include in the article but I figure I'll make a note here: The U.S. Bureau of Mines, Department of Interior, was at one time (temporarly?) located at St. Elizabeth's. I remember it because my father was the Research Dircetor and Acting Director of the Bureau of Mines when I visited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.94.73 (talk) 15:57, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding a Section on the History of Treatment of Women at St. Elizabeth's[edit]

We are interested in potentially adding a section specifically on the history of psychiatric treatment of women at St. Elizabeth's. Are there any thoughts on this? Hadleyggeorgetown (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why no mention about treatment (abuse) of homosexual patients?[edit]

This article Article in LGBTQ Nation mentions that St. Elizabeths was used for treatment (often including electro-shock treatment) against the will of homosexual patients involuntarily committed there. Unless anyone object, I plan to try to add a section to the main pain.

There is also a youtube video at Mattachine video that also mentions St. Elizabeth's role in mis-treatment of gays

I am holding out on doing this to give anyone a change to either object or make suggestions.

Most respectfully yours,

I love you all!

Mark Allyn, City of Bellingham, Washington Allyn (talk) 15:08, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that I have recently made the change. Allyn (talk) 04:58, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lost records, tunnel[edit]

i grew up at Saint Elizabeths. Records were kept in the building to building tunnel systems. Alot of records were destroyed when large areas were turned into fallout shelters and filled with old canned MREs, then again in the early 70s, more records were destroyed because of water damage. Finally in the mid 80s, the entire tunnel system was cleaned out or records, MRE and office furniture and shut down because of disrepair. I have no info after that. Also of note, the beginning of the movie A few good men was shot at center building and Tom Cruise actually met with the nurses and doctors to thank them. He also hung out with some of the national guardsmen. 172.221.126.121 (talk) 23:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]