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Removed from article as I couldn't confirm:[edit]

", while Genghis Khan's mother was on the honeymoon," and "When Genghis Khan was born, Yesugei and Hoelun could not figure it out whether he is Yesugei's or the Merkit's warrior's son."

I couldn't find any online source mentioning any doubt about Temujin's father. Rmhermen 22:03, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the undeniable similarity between the ancient ethnonyms 靺鞨 (Mandarin Mòhé, Early Middle Japanese Maka or Sino-Japanese Makkat(u), Sino-Korean Markar), 勿吉 (Mandarin Wùjí, Sino-Japanese Mokkit(u), Sino-Korean *Meurkir or *Myrkir to Modern Sino-Korean Murkir), and the ethnonym of the Merkits that is attested in Mongolian sources? Is the phonetic similarity so striking that scholars have chosen to ignore it as a mere coincidence? Or does the vague similarity to the name of the Magyars trouble them? Sometimes I think scholars with a particular fondness for one Northeast Asian ethnic group or another have arbitrarily labelled some vanished tribes of the region as being "related to" or "a subtype of" the Mongolians, the Tungus, etc. without any solid evidence to back up their claims. To me, it all seems a lot like the old Chinese historian's practice of relating, apparently arbitrarily, the chiefs of any non-Chinese tribes with which they came into contact to the descendants of some extremely ancient rulers of China, such as the kings of the Xià or Shāng dynasties. (Posted by: nekomimi Apr 30, 2006)

Beware of vague soundalikes, the staple of the hobby etymologist and pseudo-linguist alike. If you give me Middle/Old Chinese reconstructions and the resemblance remains or even increases, I'd admit you might be up to something, but this doesn't suffice. Why should anyone pick up on this? Perhaps because it isn't really that obvious a resemblance except to you and others who are inclined to see it, sort of like pareidolia? Your own fondness for a Northeast Asian ethnic group, perhaps?

Apart from that, your point that vanished tribes are classified or attributed to others on less than solid footing is valid (I admit that default assumptions, while common sense, are often wrong, but they are quite understandable), but your listing isn't anything like persuasive evidence, either. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merkit people = a Turkic people[edit]

Böri (talk) 11:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And your reason to think that is? My curiosity is already peaked; I'm listening attentively. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 21:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling?[edit]

Currently the name is spelled in the text variously as Merkit, Merged and Mergid: if there are reasons for using each of these in different places they are not made clear. Should the article be edited to use one of these consistently, with the others noted in the lede? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.0.58 (talk) 00:55, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]