Talk:HMX

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Citations[edit]

-I tried to add proper citations to the page ( as opposed to URL links), I'm not sure if I got them all though.

I think this is quite similar to RDX, at least when you look at the crystalline structure (is it a crystal? i'm no chemist) maybe someone who knows could make a link or find a graph showing this.

as far as i know, CL-20 is also a member of this explosive family, hence it's crystal has a cube as a basic structure (instead of tetraeder for RDX and octaeder for HMX). i have currently no information about that one, it's said to be used like HMX in nuclear bombs as a starter explosive.

What is the source for HMX being an acronym for "High Melting Explosive"? I had previously seen it described as "His Majesty's Explosive", and both the US DoD [1] and US Congress [2] support this. Securiger 07:54, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Neither is correct. HMX is simply High Molecular weight version of RDX. 86.144.90.137 (talk) 16:46, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment about dependency on molecular weight[edit]

The article contained:

(I have the details to hand, but as it is contained in a classified paper, I am unable to elaborate at this time.)

Mikkalai 17:00, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

IUPAC Name?[edit]

The Chemsketch chemistry software gives the name of this chemical as 1,3,5,7-tetranitro-1,3,5,7-tetrazocane. (Note the lack of 'perhydro' and the ending of '-cane' rather than '-cine', which also implies that the 'c' is pronounced differently in each case.) Is this name also correct for HMX, and if not, which is right: The software or this article? Cyrek 00:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction about sensitivity[edit]

In the article it is claimed that: HMX "is a powerful and relatively insensitive" explosive... and later: "HNIW and octanitrocubane, are more powerful and less sensitive". Although on the HNIW page they say that "all testing up to date indicates that despite great power, CL-20 (HNIW) is hyperactively sensitive, to the point that almost no American explosive manufacturer will produce it in bulk". Maybe a clarification is justified? =) Apis O-tang 23:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

There are two parameters for explosives, sensitivity and sensitiveness. The latter refers to the explosive's sensitiveness to the desired method of detonation. Sensitivity, on the other hand, refers to its sensitivity to undesired methods of detonation (rough handling, dropping, etc.). Just to confuse matters furhter, the sensitivity is actually quoted as a figure of insensitivity (or FofI). The larger the number the less sensitive (or more insensitive) the explosive. FofI used to be defined by TNT having an FofI of exactly 100. However, it has more recently been redefined around RDX as having an FofI of 80. 86.144.90.137 (talk) 16:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]