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Colombia and "Conjuntos Cerrados"[edit]

Similar to Brazil's concept and due to security issues, In Colombia most urban housing projects in middle and high class portions of the city are "gated communities", where the high class ones do enjoy of private pools and gym access though not at a club level (the quantity of luxury also depends on which city you live in and if you are middle or high class). Though, people tend to choose "gated communities" in Colombia is because the high level of security one can have there, considering most middle and high class buildings in Colombia have private security guards. I wish I could include this in the article and write more about it but i'm not good at writing. I wanted to leave this piece of information so that someone who might want to expand this part could make it part of the main article. Thank you 93.34.49.59 (talk) 21:03, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In what way is Point Roberts a "gated community"? I'm a Canadian who has visited there many times; there are no restrictions that are peculiar to entering Pt. Bob. If you have the right to enter any part of the US, you have the right to enter Pt. Bob, regardless of race, class, etc. If Pt. Bob is a "gated community" simply because it has border guards, then the entire USA (or any nation in the world) could also be called a gated community. Pt. Bob is more properly known as an "exclave"; it is not the only US exclave, and the US is not the only country which has exclaves (so do Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and Italy).

I really don't understand what the big deal is about a so-called "gated community." They've been around for a long time. Military bases are good examples of a gated community.

You need to read Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson and Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler (both of which are available at public libraries throughout North America). They are both cogent critiques of gated communities as inherently incompatible with a modern democratic nation-state; that is, they both attack gated communities as representing a partial return to the old concept of feudal city-states. --Coolcaesar 17:20, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Imho, (1) they are very much like oops military bases, or prison camps and (2) they are also an example of why "private governances" fail.Jance 02:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many times in the suburbs, gated communities are complexes of apartments or town houses. I wish the article mentioned something about this, but I don't know where to put it. --Sean 04:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

There is a strange reference to the increase of crime outside the gated community -- due to existence of the gated community. Maybe the author means that the crime does not penetrate the gated community, but happens outside instead? Well, then the solution is to create gated communities everywhere, and thus all crime is concentrate on few "ungated" spots -- and then finally, suddenly, the police will be able to find the criminals. Crime problem solved :))

Continental Europe?[edit]

What about continental Europe? (not mentioned yet) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.248.150 (talk) 09:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The countries given are examples, not a comprehensive list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.193.96 (talk) 15:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Advantages section, other police functions?[edit]

Says: "... police ... only ever need to go inside to arrest and charge thieves ..."

But what about domestic violence? What if a husband murders his wife? Do the police still only go inside to arrest and charge only thieves, but ignore murders? Even if committed by residents?

Surely, once in a while, the actual residents of a gated community might commit a crime. Domestic violence is one example. Who handles that? The private security companies?

--Atikokan (talk) 08:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional criticism point[edit]

I couldn't add this because it's anecdotal, but I have heard criticism of gated communities voiced by those who resent the idea of contributing tax dollars for road maintenance and infrastructure for an area that they are not allowed to access. I know some gated communities (again anecdotally) remove themselves from the system and the residents pay extra to cover such things. Maybe someone with access to sources can add this line of discussion to the article. 70.72.211.35 (talk) 17:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's the other way around---those common areas are never deeded by the developer to the city to begin with. Traditionally, a developer would buy up and subdivide a parcel of land, then convey common areas like streets and parks to the local city government, and convey school sites to the local school district. But then the city government has to cover street maintenance out of general property tax revenue. Over the years, developers got sick and tired of building beautiful subdivisions that look terrible 20 or 30 years later, because financially distressed cities stopped paying to mow the lawns, pull weeds, or patch potholes, in order to concentrate on core priorities like police and fire service.
Now, with modern gated communities, the developer simply conveys the common areas to the private homeowners' association which is created to manage the gated community. So the infrastructure stays private and is owned and maintained by a private entity that supports itself with HOA fees charged to all landowners in the community. Furthermore, in big planned communities made up of multiple gated communities, there is usually a second "master" HOA that maintains common areas between them. That's how planned commmunities look so nice both inside and outside the gated communities---every landowner within the community is coughing up thousands of dollars in fees each year to two HOAs to maintain everything, but it's the quid pro quo they voluntarily assumed in exchange for living in such a lovely place. --Coolcaesar (talk) 10:16, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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In popular media[edit]

Is there a point in this section? Gated community is everywhere and we don't need to list all of their appearances in popular media. -- Yel D'ohan (talk) 13:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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