Talk:United States Uniformed Services Oath of Office

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Should this page be in Wikiquote ? -- PFHLai 14:54, 2004 Jul 1 (UTC)

The title of this page is erroneous and misleading. It is not an "Oath of Allegiance"; the oath taken by officers upon commissioning and promotion is statutory and is the "Oath of Office" as prescribed by Sec. 3331, Title 5, United States Code: "An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: ``I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." " It is not a military oath; it is taken by all who occupy an 'office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services'.

Consequently this article should be retitled to United States Uniformed Services Oath of Office, and this title should point to to the correct one. I'd do it but I'm not sure how. Ray Trygstad (talk) 05:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Obviously I figured this out and moved the page. If anyone has a beef with it I would be happy to discuss it. I took this oath myself and I take it very, very seriously--and while I am not a lawyer (thank God), I know that this is not an Oath of Allegiance. Ray Trygstad (talk) 06:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Is there a reason why enlisted men and National Guard officers swear to obey the president and their superiors but active duty officers don't? If so, it should be discussed in the article.Wldcat (talk) 00:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Presumably the "duties of the office" would be for the officer to obey the lawful orders of their superior officers, consistent with supporting and defending the Constitution. Naaman Brown (talk) 15:05, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

It is far from traditional to recite this on promotion. I surely never did. Not sure where this comes from. Tigah Dude (talk) 03:55, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Not Quite Identical Oaths

The space filled by "AB" in the 5 USC 3331 is currently being used for more than just [name] as currently shown in the article. The army history site (http://www.history.army.mil/html/faq/oaths.html) indicates the oath of office includes the phrase "having been appointed" and also includes the branch of service and grade of appointment. The Air Force on AF IMT 133 includes name, "having been appointed", grade, and branch of service. Space is also left for the category if that applies. Based on these two examples I imagine the Coast Guard, Navy and the other uniformed services have their own variations. The essence of the oath is the same, but the variations should probably be noted. As written it seems misleading, as I did a double-take when checking here to verify I had remembered it correctly. I was questioning my sanity until I found the AF IMT with the official "USAF" version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.3.65.68 (talk) 06:02, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Verify

The quoted oath for the national guard is not available at 10 U.S.C. § 502. That section reads
"§ 502. Enlistment oath: who may administer
(a) Enlistment Oath.— Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath: “I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
(b) Who May Administer.— The oath may be taken before the President, the Vice-President, the Secretary of Defense, any commissioned officer, or any other person designated under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense." Awg1010 (talk) 05:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Title 32, United States Code applies to the U.S. National Guard. The oath for the NG would probably be there.--TGC55 (talk) 04:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The oath I saw was incorrect, and was indeed for the National Guard, not the "United States Uniformed Services Oath of Office." I strongly suggest combining these various oaths of office splinters into ONE entry entitled "Military Oath of Office"2601:281:C204:6170:D82F:D03B:FAF8:79C (talk) 10:11, 26 October 2016 (UTC)