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weight of the projectile (2006)[edit]

Of course 350 kilo wasn't the weight of the projectile, but of the complete round. That explains a lot.

MWAK

Quote "Two Sturmtigers survived World War II, one being on display at the Sinsheim Auto & Technik Museum in Germany, the other at the Russian Tank museum in Kubinka."

There is a third at the Deutsches Panzermuseum Munster in Munster Germany

http://www.munster.de/pzm/

Motorfix 03:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like a nice museum but I couldn't see a Sturmtiger in the website. Am I being blind? Guinnog 01:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A google search came up it is or was the Sturmtiger from the Sinsheim Museum. Maybe it is still there or moved back, I don't know. --Denniss 09:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was there three weeks ago..there is one. I have a photo of myself beside it. I have contacted the museum to see if it is a loaner from perhaps Sinheim. I have also requested hull number and history...pending the reply I am holding off on the edit ;)

Motorfix 03:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've got a picture? Is it good enough to put in the article? --Carnildo 06:50, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo is good except I'm in it... Motorfix 12:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like the fact that there's someone in the picture. It gives a sense of scale that's lacking in the photos currently in the article. --Carnildo 01:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, what monsters these tanks have been, especially the Tiger series but also the Panther. --Denniss 16:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to include this pic in the artical if anyone feels it could be used. Motorfix 22:52, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OkGuinnog 13:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done Guinnog 13:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sooo ... that's what the big-bored monster in my dad's WWII slide collection is. It is still as impressive as when I was a kid. I have a pretty good color pic of one the Germans didn't need any more. I inherited the pic so permission is not a problem, but the Wikipedia Commons is not clear on how to categorize it (not my work but not from any of the other sources, either). Anybody care to give me some guidance in the Wikipedia Commons rules on photos? There is a soldier in the picture standing beside the "gun". The picture could probably use a light going-over with Photoshop.Tomligon (talk) 03:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed following:

Re: "and one at the Deutsches Panzermuseum Munster."

This was a loaner from Sinsheim Museum. Only two after all.

Motorfix 20:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. Guinnog 20:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Armament[edit]

According to another source, the weapon was adapted from a mortar that was planned to give submarines a surface attacking ability. AllStarZ 21:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone think it would be useful to put the translation of the name in the article, and does anybody know what it is? Dbottino 22:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Sturm" means both storm and assault, "Mörser" means mortar. DevSolar 06:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Mörser doesn't mean mortar, although that's the most common (mis-)translation. In German military terminology a mortar is a "granatwerfer" lit. grenade-thrower while a mörser is a heavy howitzer. See the 21 cm Mörser 18 for one example. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How come then the "Mortar" in English is "Mörser" in German!? See the Mortar article in the German Wiki "for one example". Somewhere along the line you people mixed up! Oblivion Lost (talk) 15:02, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not an assault gun[edit]

The Sturmtiger is armored, fully enclosed, turret-less, and its armament has short range and can fire only at low trajectories. However, it not an assault gun simply because its main armament is not a gun. It's a rocket launcher. Megaidler (talk) 17:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chamberlain, Doyle; Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WWII ISBN 9781854095183 calls it an Assault rocket mortar

Schneider; Elefant, Jagdtiger, Sturmtiger ISBN 9783790902716 calls it an Assault mortar.

Forty; German Tanks of World War II ISBN 9781854095015 calls it a Heavy assault rocket mortar.

(Hohum ^@) 18:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An assault gun is not only defined by it main armament but also by its role. Thus you could call it a heavy assault gun. --Denniss (talk) 12:18, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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A 380 mm Raketen-Werfer is in the collection of the Bovington Tank Museum?[edit]

In the article, it's stated that "A 380 mm Raketen-Werfer is in the collection of the Bovington Tank Museum." However, I just reviewed the information provided on their website concerning WWII collection and no mention of this is made. Can someone else confirm that a 380 mm Raketen-Werfer is in the collection of the Bovington Tank Museum, please? Thanks JDanek007^Talk 01:45, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[1] This one? --Denniss (talk) 01:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's cool, Denniss. I wonder if it's still there? I cannot visit, and it seems like the 380 mm Raketen-Werfer is not catalogued on TTM's website (or at least I could not find it). I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this or anything...I was just surprised not to be able to find a mention of the 380 mm Raketen-Werfer on TTM's site and wondered why that was. Cheers. JDanek007^Talk 23:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's still there. From what I understand, it's the barrel tube taken off an unfinished vehicle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.190.254.108 (talk) 12:24, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Armo(u)r[edit]

This article currently uses a mixture of "Armor" and "Armour"; one or the other should be used. It looks like the original version of the article used "Armour", so I'd suggest sticking with that. GoBusto (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Survivors[edit]

The tank listed in Sinsheim is the one that nowadays is on display at Munster. Bottom line, there are only two survivors, one in Kubinka and another in Munster