Talk:Civil Air Patrol

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RFC: Should the word "university" be used in connection with education provided by the Civil Air Patrol?[edit]

The consensus is that it is fine to use the word "university" in connection with education provided by the Civil Air Patrol since that is how sources describe it. The consensus is also that when using the word "university", a sentence or two should be added to explain that "the context of the word 'university' in 'CAP University' is a multi-phase leadership school, and not a "university" in the strict sense of a degree program" as summarized by Cuprum17.

Cunard (talk) 05:34, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

In this series of edits Leonardocognoscenti (talk · contribs) used the word "university" to describe the so-called professional development program of the Civil Air Patrol. Is this usage appropriate? Jc3s5h (talk) 19:05, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CAP and "university" discussion[edit]

As the initiator of this RFC, I believe the word "university" should not be used in connection with education with education provided by the Civil Air Patrol. This is despite the fact they have a web page titled "Welcome to CAP University". Reasons for my position include

  • The training provided in the linked CAP web page is internal training, and is in no way comparable to university education.
  • No CAP program provides a full bachelor's level university education, although the occasional aerospace education course might be comparable to a corresponding course at a lower-tier university.
  • Affilliaton with CAP may on some occasions allow the CAP member to take coursework from Air University (United States Air Force) which is an accredited institution of higher learning; applying the term "university" to CAP education creates confusion. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:05, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I don't see the harm letting the term "CAP University" be used in the article about the Civil Air Patrol. There is a webpage that is so titled and it is used in citations in the article. That said, I also believe that a sentence or two explaining that the context of the word "university" in "CAP University" is a multi-phase leadership school, and not a "university" in the strict sense of a degree program. Spoiler Alert: I confess to being a Civil Air Patrol Cadet 55 years ago. The experience was educational, interesting, and helped me begin my military career. Cuprum17 (talk) 22:26, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above include it, but explain and clarify HAL333 21:00, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that little harm is done, as long a short clarification is made. By the way, several corporations have corporate universities like Hamburger University (McDonald's), Apple University (Apple Inc.), Disney University (Walt Disney Company) and Defense Acquisition University (United States Department of Defense) that only offer certificates, and in some cases can be used for college credit. I too was a CAP cadet in the early 1970's, but I don't recall the term "CAP University" being used back then, but I could be mistaken. --rogerd (talk) 21:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind most of these uses, but CAP and McDonald's have many teenagers affiliated with them who might become confused about what what kind of training is university-level, and what is not. So I object to the use of the term in both organizations, and don't think Wikipedia should parrot it. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:13, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, while I can see your point, Wikipedia's role is not to put a positive or negative spin on things. I know you have been here long enough to know about WP:NPOV one of the key principles of WP. Or to put it another way, as Joe Friday would say, "Just the facts, ma'am". --rogerd (talk) 14:13, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Merger proposal[edit]

I propose merging National Blue Beret (which is marked with "{{notability}}") into Civil Air Patrol. I think the content in "National Blue Beret" can easily be explained in the context of "Civil Air Patrol", and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in "Civil Air Patrol".MarcRic::Ruby (talk) 13:40, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the (very) late response, but I would suggest that if it were merged anywhere the target should be National Cadet Special Activities rather than the main CAP article. It doesn't really have a place here. — Huntster (t @ c) 20:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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