Talk:Helepolis

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Compare with article Rhodes[edit]

The article on Rhodes says:

In 305 BC, Antigonus had his son besiege Rhodes in an attempt to break the alliance. After a year they gave up and signed a peace agreement in 304 BC, leaving behind a huge store of military equipment. The Rhodians sold the equipment and used the money to erect a statue of their sun god, Helios, the statue now known as the Colossus of Rhodes.

According to the above, it would seem that this heleopolis was unsucessful - perhaps a point worth making. Also, it was not the materials, but the funds raised by their sale that permitted the construction of the collossus. Gaius Cornelius 17:25, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That speed can't be right.[edit]

.00025km/hr? That's less than 10 inches/hour. dan

160 tons pushed by people - sounds like a project for Mythbusters! Egmason (talk) 10:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That would equal to 1 metre in 4 hours. Though it is not in the article anymore, so this irrelevant... 193.210.193.109 (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Modern units[edit]

Is there any reason to describe the Helepolis in something archaic like cubits? I'm putting in my hat for modern units.

Failure of the siege[edit]

This article could stand to include information on the failure of the siege of Rhodes. I had heard that the Helepolis was made largely worthless when it got bogged down in the mud, but a sourced mention would be good.

Rewrite[edit]

I rewrote the entire page as it read as if there were two helepolis's and also most was a direct copy/paste from a copyright source anyway which I think is what caused the duplication.

I added a source which gives the reason the helepolis didn't work and included the reason in the text.

The iron plates were melted down and used to build the colossus. The sale of the equipment paid for the labour and the bronze that was used as a thin skin over the iron.

The page for siege of Rhodes has the reasons for the failure of the siege so is not needed here. Wayne 01:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

pictures?[edit]

pictures/figures? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.179.117.76 (talk) 01:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created / Added picture. Egmason (talk) 10:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I would honestly say that most of this article is very inapropriate, I have personally researched the subject at hand, and the information in this article is not very accurate

Last edited at 18:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 17:35, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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3D model?[edit]

description in image page says: "3d model and cross-section of Helepolis approximately as described in wiki article"
however, the 3d model only has 6 floors while the museum model apparently has 9 floors. does that mean the 3d model creator cannot count?
according the text the scructure had at least 7 floors (as described in the weapons placements): first, second, and "next five floors". 193.210.193.109 (talk) 15:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]