Talk:Religion in the Inca Empire

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Introduction

The intro to this article doesn't make any Fricking sense.

haha

Is there a reason that this page does not use the usual English name Inca? (—Charles P. ^(Mirv) forgot to sign this.)

It does now. If anyone decides to move it back to Tawantinsuyu, Religion, an explanation would be appreciated. —Charles P. ^(Mirv) 16:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Needs work

Just underlining that this article needs work, if anyone has the time (unfortunately, I don't at the moment). It has a lot in common with Inca mythology, and there is good introductory material on religion in Inca Empire that could be integrated into the intro to this article. There is also an article called Inti. Perhaps some merging work is in order? Dunno. Mona-Lynn 15:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

The Inca-related articles in general are in need of attention. When I have some time in a few weeks I hope to improve them, possibly using some material from their Spanish counterparts, which, in general, seem more thorough. bcasterline t 16:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Need help adding a cite

I've added a cites to a book I'm reading on the subject (by Von Hagen), but I've never done cites on Wikipedia before, so someone probably needs to clean them up. I'm not sure the economic part is totally relevant to this subject, but as long as someone was talking about all the Socialist trademarks of the society in this topic, I wanted to counter-balance it with one very NON-Socialist trademark: totally free marketplaces. Another interesting factoid (also from Von Hagen) to stick somewhere might be that they had no currency, but that's DEFINITELY not relevant to this topic. :-)

I'm wikifying this article and the Von Hagen reference is impossible to track down as it only cites the author's name and a page number - Victor_Wolfgang_von_Hagen has written many many books and I have no idea where to start. This page looks pretty much abandoned - but if anyone is watching, please help ... otherwise I don't see an alternative but to remove the material. Depthdiver (talk) 22:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Afraid no-one has replied so I am going to remove the two Von Hagen references as they lack adequate citation details and can't be sourced to anything. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the subject will be able to add it back in properly at a later date. Depthdiver (talk) 01:36, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Mummification, wiki formatting sins and anthropomorphism

From the article:

"In order for a child to be designated, he had to be perfect, and be free of any blemishes. Usually the finest young children were taken from each village to Cuzco to meet the emperor, and were then taken to the highest mountains and then sacrificed, most often with a blow to the head. The children were elaborately adorned with fine clothing, and jewelry. This process left mummies..."

Nothing in this passage in any way describes the process by which mummification occurs. The "process" left corpses, which due to environment and burial procedures became mummified.

The rest of the section was typed by someone who doesn't understand how to format a paragraph, and it just looks darned sloppy. The deprecated XHTML "<br />", is not proper form here for breaking a line. Paragraphs are to be separated by a blank line, something done with a paragraph tag ("<p>") if you insist upon using HTML, not a linebreak. You should be using wiki formatting, not X/HTML. See Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout and Help:Editing for help.

A "day" is a period of time. It is not a sentient being, and it cannot "witness" anything. To state otherwise is "waxing poetic", and is not the proper tone for an encyclopedia article. 12.22.250.4 18:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Expanded discourse on Inca Religion.

Here is a overview done by Yale's Peabody museum which summerizes Inca religion quite well: "Perhaps because they lived in a harsh and unpredictable environment, the Inca practiced religious rituals designed to win the favor of the gods, who were often associated with natural forces such as the sun, water, or weather. The Inca people gave precious things to the gods to earn their favor.The Inca religion grew out of the beliefs of Andean people regarding natural forces. Andean people

have long worshipped the natural world around them, including mountains, rivers, lakes, the ocean, and constellations. They identify natural features such as especially high mountains, springs and large stones as sacred places, called huacas. The Incas worshipped the sun as the ultimate giver of life and celebrate festivals to assure that the sun will continue to appear each day. They used felines and snakes as symbols in their religious art.

Pachacuti, who ruled from A.D. 1438 to 1471, greatly expanded the Inca Empire and rebuilt Cuzco. He also reorganized the Inca religion. He created a special relationship between himself and the sun, proclaiming that the Inca emperor was the sun’s son. Pachacuti built the elaborate temple to the Sun in Cuzco that awed the Spanish. Wiracocha was the god of creation who was believed to have created all things, including the sun, moon and stars, as well as the earth and human beings.The Inca people believed that Illapa, the thunder or weather god, controlled rain. He was asked to provide enough rainfall at critical points during the agricultural cycle. Mama-Quilla, the moon god, was the wife of the sun. The festival of the moon was held near the spring equinox, at the beginning of the planting season. Pachamama, the god of the earth, and Mama-Cocha, the god of the sea, were also female gods. Many other local deities existed to protect herds of llamas, wild animals and crops. A large group of male and female priests worshipped the many gods and maintained their shrines. The highest priest, usually the brother or uncle of the emperor, worshipped the sun. A group of women called aqllakuna made textiles and chicha for the temples. The priests and attendants of Inca gods were supported by the agricultural goods produced by the third of the land under Inca control. Inca beliefs required people to observe many rituals tied to the agricultural calendar. These rituals involved the sacrifice of precious objects, including textiles, coca, chicha, and llamas. Children were sacrificed only on rare occasions after natural disasters, war or during the crowning of a new emperor.

Major festivals took place in December at the beginning of the rainy season, and included dancing, drinking and sacrifice. Another important festival occurred in May to celebrate the corn harvest. Many llamas were sacrificed, and the meat was either eaten or burned. In June, a festival to the sun god Inti took place near Cuzco. Only royal Inca men could participate. The festival included llama sacrifices, dancing, and drinking chicha."

References

--Kba206 (talk) 21:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Contemporary "Incanism"

There should be some discussion on contemporary followers of Inca religious traditions and their beliefs and practices. For example, the article on Bolivia claims that 15% of Bolivian population practice "Incanism/Andean Spirituality." Elsewhere in that article, it is claimed that "many Native communities interweave pre-Columbian and Christian symbols in their worship." No doubt similar kinds of religion/spirituality exist in other South American countries. Reuqr (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I think a confusing aspect is there is "Andean" spirituality, which is kind of everything and anything believed by different andean groups, and usually includes pachamama, tata inti and a few others, then there's Inca, and other specific ones like Aymara "cosmovisión" or spirituality. We differ in various things and as an Aymara I have seen all sorts of resources on the internet passed off as either or all of these, sometimes even mixing Mapuche beliefs or others! Perhaps these beliefs were different or mutually exclusive at some point, but then you have 2 empires hitting the region followed by colonisation so it´s quite hard to piece together how each one converges or overlaps and how one belief was replaced by another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.152.25 (talk) 13:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Merge with Inca mythology?

There is an article called Inca mythology that covers the same thing as this article, but does so much better than this one, and the two could be merged. Is there any reason not to proceed with that? Kotuku33 (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Space

Did the Inca ever associate anything about their religion with space? Were there temples ever designed around the idea of looking up at the stars or faced a certain direction to see something? Rcm3b (talk) 19:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merger

Hi I'm proposing that content from Inca religion in Cusco be merged into this article, maybe as a section. What do others think? Mccapra (talk) 07:08, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

I think that is a great idea. The Inca religion in Cusco may differ, but it definitely should be part of this particular article. Athroop (talk) 16:45, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

What I'd like to add

I'd like to add information about the Inca deities. Give broad information about the deities and then also go into more detail about the major ones.Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2017 (UTC) Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Adding to the Deities Section

I would like to add more information about the different deities in the Inca religion. If I am able to incorporate a table with a detailed section about each, I believe it would help the article grow. I also want to use several reliable sources to find this information. Athroop (talk) 16:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

My group is replacing parts of the article by adding more information about the different deities. Athroop (talk) 16:29, 3 November 2017 (UTC)Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Improving the Deities Article

I added links to some of the deities to other wiki pages that go into a lot more detail than what this article does. I also added a picture of Viracocha. And also found another source to further back up the information already present in the article. Rcm3b (talk) 04:25, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Cuzco/Cusco

In the section, "In Cusco," it includes both forms of Cuzco/Cusco. I would edit this myself, but I don't know what the precedent for this is. Thank you, Ghinga7 (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2019 (UTC)