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Recent bad source[edit]

I'm sort of dismayed that we actually have to discuss this, but if so, then here it is. The recent source that was added (this article from The Guardian) should not be in the lead. Per WP:LEADCITE, "Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Leads are usually less specific than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source [...]".

This was a case of a source in search of text, rather than the other way around, and this is not how sources should be added. The text in the lead was a very very broad, general statement which is gone into in much more detail in the body of the article with dozens of appropriate citations for more specific aspects. The Guardian article, on the other hand, was much more specific, talking mostly about missions to some of the Jovian moons. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:07, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot agree with your rather aggressive attitude and your constant hiding behind a IP number, rather than creating an account - so that we may something about you; your interests and motivations. Having said that would you be happy if the Guardian story was referenced in the Jupiter and moons section further in the page text? I am trying to resolve what I, and others, consider the Guardian article to be relevant to the page. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Embargo?[edit]

I was checking the sources and the first one at the Exoplanets section, this one, says "EMBARGO NOTICE: All information provided on this page and its links is embargoed until Wed 25-Jan, 18:00 GMT". What is that even supposed to mean? Cambalachero (talk) 19:12, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

David Grusch UFO whistleblower claims[edit]

There should be an article around the leadup to David Grusch's Whistleblower claims on this page and his claims Nabotor (talk) 18:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm? That article already exists: David Grusch UFO whistleblower claims. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 19:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Enceladus - more possible life chemicals found?[edit]

NOTE: May not be worth addng to the main extraterrestrial life article (after all, no such life has yet been found), but perhaps worth being aware of the latest related news about extraterrestrial life chemicals found in the solar system?

On 14 December 2023, astronomers reported the first time discovery, in the plumes of Enceladus, moon of the planet Saturn, of hydrogen cyanide, a possible chemical essential for life^[1] as we know it, as well as other organic molecules, some of which are yet to be better identified and understood. According to the researchers, "these [newly discovered] compounds could potentially support extant microbial communities or drive complex organic synthesis leading to the origin of life."^[2]^[3]

References

^ Green, Jaime (5 December 2023). "What Is Life? - The answer matters in space exploration. But we still don't really know". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on 5 December 2023. Retrieved 15 December 2023.
^ Chang, Kenneth (14 December 2023). "Poison Gas Hints at Potential for Life on an Ocean Moon of Saturn - A researcher who has studied the icy world said "the prospects for the development of life are getting better and better on Enceladus."". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 14 December 2023. Retrieved 15 December 2023.
^ Peter, Jonah S.; et al. (14 December 2023). "Detection of HCN and diverse redox chemistry in the plume of Enceladus". Nature Astronomy. doi:10.1038/s41550-023-02160-0. Archived from the original on 15 December 2023. Retrieved 15 December 2023.

Drbogdan (talk) 17:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: EEB 4611-Biogeochemical Processes-Spring 2024[edit]

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— Assignment last updated by Coll1397 (talk) 07:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UFOs[edit]

UFOs are mentioned in a paragraph at the "Recent history" section. Is that enough, or should the UFO phenomenon have a section of its own? Cambalachero (talk) 17:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ONEWAY. This: serious article. UFOs: connection to aliens is wacko. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[ATL-20231205-1] Green, Jaime (5 December 2023). "What Is Life? - The answer matters in space exploration. But we still don't really know". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on 5 December 2023. Retrieved 15 December 2023.

[NYT-20231214kc-2] Chang, Kenneth (14 December 2023). "Poison Gas Hints at Potential for Life on an Ocean Moon of Saturn - A researcher who has studied the icy world said "the prospects for the development of life are getting better and better on Enceladus."". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 14 December 2023. Retrieved 15 December 2023.

[NA-20231214-3] Peter, Jonah S.; et al. (14 December 2023). "Detection of HCN and diverse redox chemistry in the plume of Enceladus". Nature Astronomy. doi:10.1038/s41550-023-02160-0. Archived from the original on 15 December 2023. Retrieved 15 December 2023.

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