Talk:Margaret Oliphant

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Why the full name?[edit]

Who can explain the name, Margaret Oliphant Oliphant, rather than just Margaret Oliphant? Wikikiwi 20:45, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

  • Her maiden name was Margaret Oliphant Wilson. She married Frank Oliphant, dropped the Wilson, kept both Oliphants. Frjwoolley 22:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Who wouldn't want a pair of Oliphants? Rich Farmbrough, 10:42 4 October 2006 (GMT).
      • Women and oliphants never forget (Dorothy Parker). Bmcln1 (talk) 11:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • That's all good. But she was known generally as "Margaret Oliphant", not as "Margaret Oliphant Oliphant". True? People generally wouldn't have known, or cared, what her middle name was. True? So why do we feel the need to show her middle name - whatever it was - in the title of the article? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 10:52, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article should be at simply Margaret Oliphant. Regarding the middle name, I'm not sure she did "drop the Wilson" - remember, keeping the maiden name as a middle name was a common practice at the time. The chronology in the Autobiography (p. 28) gives "Margaret Oliphant Wilson Oliphant", as does the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography ("Oliphant, Margaret Oliphant Wilson..."). Who Was Who has "OLIPHANT, Margaret Oliphant Wilson", the National Register of Archives index uses "Oliphant, Margaret Oliphant Wilson", and the National Portrait Gallery index uses "Margaret Oliphant Wilson Oliphant". The only source I can immediately find which differs is the older Dictionary of National Biography article, from 1901, which has "Oliphant, Margaret Oliphant". I'll correct the article accordingly.

"Start" class etc.[edit]

I never can understand these grading systems. I would have thought the entry for MOO had about the right amount of information for her importance in literature. Dickens she ain't. Bmcln1 (talk) 11:32, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

could you have copied just a little more faithfully from your source?[edit]

yes that was sarcasm. 100.15.138.239 (talk) 23:21, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Date of death[edit]

A 6 November 1897 edition of The Times (London) newspaper gives the date of her death as 20 June 1897

(see "Wills.-Mrs. Margaret Oliphant Wilson". News. The Times. No. 35354. London. 6 November 1897. p. 14. Retrieved 2017-11-11. template uses deprecated parameter(s) (help))

The text reads: "WILLS.—Mrs. MARGARET OLIPHANT WILSON OLIPHANT, of The Hermitage, Wimbledon-common, who died on June 20, left personal estate of which the gross value is £4,932 and the net value £804."

It is unclear where the date of death given in the Wikipedia article (25 June 1897) comes from. Should we change the article to 20 June 1897?

Hebrides (talk) 21:45, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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