Talk:George Germain, 1st Viscount Sackville

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the George Germain, 1st Viscount Sackville article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This level-5 vital article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Politics of the United Kingdom Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Politics of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Politics of the United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomPolitics of the United Kingdom articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Biography: Military / Peerage and Baronetage / Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the military biography work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Ireland Low‑importance

	Ireland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject IrelandTemplate:WikiProject IrelandIreland articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

British Empire Low‑importance

	British Empire portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject British Empire, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of British Empire on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.British EmpireWikipedia:WikiProject British EmpireTemplate:WikiProject British EmpireBritish Empire articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States History Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the history of the United States on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United States HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject United States HistoryTemplate:WikiProject United States HistoryUnited States History articles

Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject United States History To-do:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : United States History articles needing attention
Infobox : United States History articles needing infoboxes
Stubs : Stub-Class United States History articles, Category:United States history stubs
Other :
- Place either of the following WikiProject banners on United States History-related articles and assess:
  - {{WikiProject United States History|class=|importance=}}
  - {{WikiProject United States|class=|importance=|UShistory=Yes|UShistory-importance=}}

Military history: Biography / British / European / Early Modern / American Revolution C‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

C

This article has been rated as C-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military biography task force
	British military history task force
	European military history task force
	Early Modern warfare task force (c. 1500 – c. 1800)
	American Revolutionary War task force

Politics Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Revolutionary War / Military history / History Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Military history - American Revolutionary War task force.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Military history - U.S. military history task force.
	This article is supported by WikiProject U.S. history.

Article name[edit]

article nenamed to follow wiki Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles) FearÉIREANN 22:29 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

So where on earth should this article be located? He's normally called Lord George Germain (which doesn't even redirect here as I'm writing this, sigh), and his surname changed like two or three times...Before, it didn't even have the "Germain" anywhere in the article title, which is just really bad. At any rate, I'm open to ideas. john k 17:33, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

No clue. On a totally different manner, was he "Secretary of State for the America" (as the article mentions), or "Secretary of State for America", or just Colonial Secretary? ugen64 14:11, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

Cashiered?[edit]

it says after the Battle of Minden he was "cashiered and sent home." What does cashiered mean? I've never heard that term. Maybe it's British English (I'm American) --Awiseman 15:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See wikt:cashier. 68.39.174.238 11:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Minden affair[edit]

This article is far more negative towards Sackville's actions at Minden than seems appropriate. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article on him seems much more even-handed. It mentions nothing of antipathy towards Granby or a desire to deny him glory. Instead, it basically says that Sackville's failure to take advantage of the opportunity largely arose through a misunderstanding, facilitated by confused orders from Ferdinand. It basically says that Sackville's disgrace was a result of unfair attacks after the battle by Ferdinand, and that the court martial convicting him came as close as possible to acquittal without actually acquitting him (which would have been embarrassing for the king). Should we modify this? john k (talk) 14:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dangling reference to "Weintraub p.31" in the "References" section[edit]

This comment is "as of" the "Latest revision as of 10:47, 29 April 2020" version of the article.

confusing entries[edit]

Several of the entries -- including 5 of the first 6 entries! -- in the "References" section of the article, say only "Weintraub" followed by a page number, which is confusing to me. The first three, e.g., say "Weintraub p.31".

I could not find the character string "Weintraub" anywhere else in that article.

Is it supposed to be obvious, which author (and which work by that author) named "Weintraub" is meant? (/slash "implied") -- ? --

Any comments?[edit]

Thanks for listening. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 18:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]