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This needs some dividers to set apart U.S. Lutherans from the older Lutheran churches - which also deserve a fuller explanation. Lutheran theology of communion is much more complex than 'to avoid spiritual harm to curious non-Christians; as well. I'm not sure what non-Lutherans are allowed to take communion, but I'm not sure the Missouri Synod allows ELCA members to take it. It is important to explain Luther on consubstatiation vs. transubstatiation, and if any of the synods do or do not still hold with Luther's doctrine. Recent Anglican/Lutheran rapprochements are another area to explore. --MichaelTinkler

Oh, and, the entry on the Protestantism page is for Lutheranism. Nomenclature strikes again. --MichaelTinkler

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"Lutheranism" could be used to discuss doctrine and "Lutheran church" could be used to discuss church history and politics. There could be other pages, too, obviously, such as Lutheran church--Missouri Synod or the same with the "c" in "church" capitalized (if that would be more correct). It just seems to me that Lutheran and Lutherans are not the best places to put the information. I'm a literalist when it comes to interpreting Wikipedia titles.  :-) --LMS

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I have no idea what this means: "The social groups are essential, not decorative." -- It sounds like an implication that Lutherans are ugly. And I would dispute this: "Most Lutheran churches actively teach young persons not to marry out of the christian faith.", especially as 'actively' has very flexible meaning. -- Olof

I think that the paragraph is probably trying to say that social groups are important to give a way for single Lutherans to find a spouse who shares their faith. "decorative" may not be the best word; perhaps "optional" or "not just for fun" would be better? And in the sentence "Most Lutheran churches actively teach young persons not to marry out of the christian faith.", it probably wouldn't hurt to change Most to Many and strike the word actively; you're right about it having a flexible meaning. --Wesley

I've been to a bunch of Lutheran churches of various denominations, (admittedly not a scientific sample) but never once have I heard anyone preach or teach in favor of marrying nonchristians. I also have yet to meet a confirmed Lutheran who is unaware of 2 cor. 6:14. I rewrote the text on social groups. Ray Van De Walker

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Your page should be correct to make it clear than Lutheranism didn't start from a "separation." Luther and many of those who followed him were excommunicated. I'm Lutheran, and I take pride in knowing that they stood fast to the Word even though it meant that the "established church" booted them. So, we didn't separate based upon beliefs in Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, and Sola Gratia, we were excommunicated for sticking to the principles of the Gospel.

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