Talk:Netball

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Q1: What is netball?

A1: Netball is a sport primarily played by women in countries of The Commonwealth of Nations. It is not very popular in the United States or Canada, but it is very popular in parts of Africa, Oceania and the Caribbean. When making edits to the article, please remember this and be sensitive to female centric and non-American centric issues.

Q2: Why does the article contain so much background about women, where the game is played and the grass roots game?

A2: Netball is a game primilarly played by women. Unlike most sports played by women, it has been historically administered by women instead of men. This makes netball somewhat unique. Because of who is playing and the differences in administration and history of the game compared to male dominated sport, a lot of the sociological and historical issues are covered to show that. The history of netball is very much tied into definitions of what it means to be a woman, and historical athletic constraints on women imposed by male dominated culture. This information best contextualises the game to put it into the appropiate historical and sociological perspective. Where it might be inappropiate in association football and cricket, it would be appropiate here.

This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Netball has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 23, 2011	Good article nominee	Not listed
March 26, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
March 27, 2011	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
July 3, 2011	Good article reassessment	Delisted
August 20, 2011	Good article nominee	Not listed
December 15, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
October 12, 2023	Good article reassessment	Kept
Current status: Good article

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Injuries[edit]

The article includes a short section on "Injuries," the presence of which implies that netball injuries are in some way unusual or notable. The section doesn't include any evidence that they are. It mentions two injuries in international netball from the last 20 years, neither of which is particularly notable. And its source for which injuries are more common than others is from 1995, which is 28 years ago, and long predates modern training & physio practices.

There is no comparable "Injuries" section (or even links to such) for comparable sports such as basketball, soccer/association football, or Australian rules football, despite these arguably featuring more significant injury concerns.

I therefore propose removing this section. -- Violetine (talk) 03:54, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removal makes sense to me. HiLo48 (talk) 04:41, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(after edit conflict ... it took me a while to compose this reply): :Sounds reasonable to me, but I don't know much about the subject. It was added to the article by Doc James in a merge from Injuries in netball, an article written by Rachm97. a Veeeery quick search coughed up this more recent systematic review, which might be useful but also indicates that data just doesn't seem to be that good on this subject. I'd be OK with an unmerge and update, too. I think we should give it a few days or so. Graham87 05:06, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the reason is that the sport was initially designed to be less physically demanding, but the way that it is currently played that isn't the case. But sure. The section seems of little value. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:00, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since the text has been removed, I've nominated the redirect for deletion (or perhaps moving). Graham87 04:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is: Volleyball injuries, Common injuries in cricket, and Tennis injuries, however. :3 F4U (they /it) 05:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Significant uncited material, while the existing references are predominantly from 2011 or earlier; thus several sections are out of date, and GA criterion 3a is violated. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Things like the rules of netball don't need to be cited per WP:SKYISBLUE, and it's not obvious why an article on the sport of netball in general would require recent sources. Taking a look at the article, the citations and coverage seem to have held up pretty well over 10+ years, so you're going to have to be more specific than that about your concerns. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:31, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am willing to work on the article to provide additional references. If the concern is criterion 3a "addresses the main aspects of the topic", then I agree with Sportsfan77777. Provide details of what you believe to be out of date, with appropriate references to back them up. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.