Talk:Pope Sergius IV

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I have a concern regarding the information added about the papal bull. The article asserts that the bull was fraudulent, but I have done extensive research into this subject, and the best i can conclude is that the evidence is inconclusive, although it does slightly favor an early 11th century origin. Perhaps we can discuss this further and more in-depth.

pecora[edit]

Evidently, pecora can be translated to mean pig - see [1]

Hmm, interesting. However there was still the problem that all the external links/references gave a different name than the one we had. I suppose it probably appears with different spellings in the original documents. Adam Bishop (talk) 19:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This was from a while ago, and I couldn’t find a mention of “pecora” in the article in a page-search for the word (perhaps since edited out), but in the current version there is mention of his “nickname” being Pietro Martino Buccaporci. “Bucca” translates from Latin as “jaws”, and “porci” as “pigs”, so, it appears that his name is Pietro Martino Pigs’-Jaws.

Would be great to be able to add that to the article, but I wouldn’t want to run afoul of WP:OR. My guess (and that is all it is) is that his birth name was Pietro Martino, and that only the Buccaporci portion was his nickname. I can’t properly open the source given in the article for this, as, for some reason, my iPhone doesn’t display Google books in a way that’s readable (squashes the page display box into a slender 1/4 inch or so. No idea why, since it didn’t used to a year ago), so I can’t glean anything from it. Hamamelis (talk) 23:14, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]