Talk:Graham Young

While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard.

Biography

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

Crime and Criminal Biography: Serial, mass, and spree killers Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Serial Killer task force (assessed as Low-importance).

Death Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United Kingdom Low‑importance

	United Kingdom portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Untitled[edit]

"Is it 'Bob Egle' or 'Bob Eagle'? The article seems to use both."

Egle.

By the way, is there any evidence in support of the claim that Young administered poison to 70 people, or to scores of people? From memory of Holden's book, a number of people who knew Young at the Slough Training Centre claimed to have gone down with a mystery bug, but there's no strong evidence that Young was responsible for these illnesses (apart from Trevor Sparkes's).

Meltingpot (talk) 15:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Antimonium?[edit]

What's "antimonium"? Does it refer to "antimony" (Sb) or something else? KittySaturn 06:30, 2005 Jan 24 (UTC)

Yes, it refers to antimony.

Meltingpot (talk) 09:57, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fix this sentence[edit]

"I don't understand what is meant by: "Young asked the company doctor if the investigators why they had not considered thallium poisoning as a cause of the symptoms." Did he ask if the investigators had considered thallium, or did he ask why they had not considered thallium?"

(From memory of Anthony Holden's biography of Young) He asked them why they hadn't considered heavy metal poisoning as a cause of the symptoms. This aroused their suspicions and set in train a series of events leading to Young's arrest, and later on the detective in charge of the case, Ron Harvey, happened to be at a dinner with a couple of pathologists (Keith Mant and Ian Holden) with whom he discussed the case.

Harvey asked them what might have caused the symptoms Young's murder victims had suffered from; both immediately diagnosed thallium poisoning.

Meltingpot (talk) 15:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Serial killer= more than 4 kills[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Serial_killers

Serial killers=more than 4 kills. No actually. I heard from either Robert Ressler or John Douglas, both profilers and FBI agent that 2 or more kills would be serial killers already. termi 16:35, 14. March 2007 (CEST)

Also, Young attempted to kill well over four people. -D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.93.207 (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Debatable in my view. Judging by his comments about Trevor Sparkes (one of his victims for whom he wasn't however convicted) when interviewed by the detective in charge of the case, he seemed happy to inflict sublethal misery on some of his victims without killing them; he said that Sparkes "had several doses but they were not lethal." However, he came close to killing his father but wasn't charged with his attempted murder as he probably should have been.

He wasn't in fact charged with murder at all when he was first tried and convicted as a teenager in 1962. He was wily enough to persuade his father to have his stepmother cremated after her death (from thallium poisoning) so that the police could not proceed against him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meltingpot (talk • contribs) 10:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This may not be POV but I've had enough of writing about this maniac; someone else can take over now.

Meltingpot (talk) 15:42, 16 February 2009 (U

Nazi fascination[edit]

I have read several websites that claim he was fascinated by Nazism at a young age. Is this notable?--Cymbelmineer (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yea I reckon it is, with a reliable source ofc. --Half Price (talk) 18:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diagnosis of psychopathy[edit]

I've added a line stating that Young was diagnosed (in 1962) as suffering from a psychopathic disorder; others can revert it if they don't think it's appropriate.

Meltingpot (talk) 06:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blacklisted Links Found on the Main Page[edit]

Cyberbot II has detected that page contains external links that have either been globally or locally blacklisted. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed, or are highly innappropriate for Wikipedia. This, however, doesn't necessarily mean it's spam, or not a good link. If the link is a good link, you may wish to request whitelisting by going to the request page for whitelisting. If you feel the link being caught by the blacklist is a false positive, or no longer needed on the blacklist, you may request the regex be removed or altered at the blacklist request page. If the link is blacklisted globally and you feel the above applies you may request to whitelist it using the before mentioned request page, or request it's removal, or alteration, at the request page on meta. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. The whitelisting process can take its time so once a request has been filled out, you may set the invisible parameter on the tag to true. Please be aware that the bot will replace removed tags, and will remove misplaced tags regularly.

Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:

http://www.murderuk.com/poisoners_graham_young.html
Triggered by \bmurderuk\.com\b on the local blacklist

If you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.

From your friendly hard working bot.—cyberbot II ^Notify_Online 15:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Signs" of autism?[edit]

The article's stated claim that "Subsequent analysis has also suggested signs of the Autism spectrum (cf Bowden 1996)" relies on a single reference, citation and (limited) source link. Furthermore, the WP category of "People on the autism spectrum" expects a diagnosis, not a "suggestion." While this reference relies on a "retrospective diagnosis," WP editors voted a couple years ago to avoid catgorization of all such retrospective diagnoses for lack of evidence beyond speculation ... even by today's willing clinicians. So, while the article itself may retain the reference, citation and source link (and, even expand and improve them if possible with evidence), it appears that, for now, the ability to categorize the article within the "People on the autism spectrum" category is simply a bridge too far for the existing evidence. I have reverted the categorization accordingly.24.11.116.253 (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Graham Young. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060216161648/http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/graham_young/index.html to http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/graham_young/index.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:49, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]