Talk:Taiji (philosophy)

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Requested move 28 October 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: disambiguate Taiji. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 15:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Taiji (philosophy)Taiji – The philosophical concept is the root of most of the other meanings, see Taiji (disambiguation). Remsense 18:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 13:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support The term Tai Chi is a western misspelling of the Wade-Giles transliteration. It’s only used to refer to 太極拳 hand-fighting based exercise. Taiji is not, or only rarely, used in English contexts to refer to that subject. The main article for Taiji is this one as the most common use of the word Taiji. Cambial foliar❧ 13:02, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I would just characterise it as a variant spelling, and one particularly associated with the martial art. Remsense 15:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the 2012 move request did the opposite to this request. -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 22:57, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I think the 2012 RM had it about right. Taiji is simply an alternative spelling of Tai Chi, and that is the primary topic over others.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not so sure—orthography makes a difference. Kanji is just a different spelling of hanzi, by the same parameters, but the different connotations have given them different meanings as English words. Remsense 21:53, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose making Taiji (philosophy) primary topic, but support disambiguation. Google results for "taiji" show a good mix of many different senses. Of massviews, Tai chi makes up less than 50%. Some raw numbers here: 376,913 for Tai chi, 143,657 for Seo Taiji, 142,515 for Hong Taiji, 79,949 for Taiji (philosophy), 6,779 for Taiji (redirect to Tai chi). Tai chi, Seo Taiji, and Hong Taiji should all be discounted, but by how much is more of an art than a science. We know that the lower bound for Tai chi is 6,779; realistically the adjusted pageviews (for how many people actually call it "Taiji" in English) is probably in the ballpark of 50-100K. The partial name matches get discounted somewhat, but they're still significant and contribute to the determination of no primary topic. -- King of ♥ 05:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Support disambig per King of Hearts. SilverStar54 (talk) 17:42, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I would see this proposal as an improvement over status quo. Remsense 18:00, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.