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Three Rivers Stadium was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
August 11, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
February 21, 2024	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Capacity[edit]

I'm looking for a good written source for the capacity of Three Rivers Stadium, but I know it is way higher than 38,000. Most sources I have found put football capacity at 59,000 - 61,000. How could a stadium that only seats 38,000 seat 65,000 for a Bruce Springsteen concert? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jungledrew64 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The star quarterback gently caressed the nervous rookie football player. "Hey guy. You'll do fine." "I know, star quarterback. I'm just nervous." "I know what helped me my rookie year. A couple of the older guys introduced me to the subtle joys-and pleasures- of a man's touch." "What! I like woman, man!" "Thats groovy" the star quarterback replied "We all do. Sometimes a man knows what a man likes." "Well you did look strong in that football game. I sometimes have feelings that I can't explain. Like when we're in the shower together." "Come over here rookie. I'll make you feel better."

Is there documentation that such a sexy conversation *didn't* happen at 3 rivers? I mean really.

01:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)grandadd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandadd (talk • contribs)

Maulers[edit]

I grew up in Pittsburgh, but I was never much of a sports fan. I can probably count the number of times I visited Three Rivers on two hands. Still, I couldn't stand the sub-stub version. I'm hoping somebody will run with what I've just thrown together. One thing I left out because I'm unsure: did the Pittsburgh Maulers play at Three Rivers? Ventura 19:50, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)

Yes, for one season. Citation added. Black ngold29 16:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another photo[edit]

Here's a free photo of this stadium from an angle not depicted in the article yet: [1]. If anyone feels like importing it. --W.marsh 15:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Today[edit]

What is in the area where the stadium stood today ? /Cygnus78 14:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, PNC Park was built right across the street... I haven't been in PNC Park yet, so I couldn't say. I think they have a memorial up for it, as most of us were devastated to see it go, which oddly enough was on my birthday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.250.122 (talk) 07:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up[edit]

I think some clean up is needed! There are no in-line citations or clear references, and there are definitely some POV problems (see WP:NPOV, and consider lines like "The stadium did have its moments of glory and drama" and, later, hosted "arguably the greatest NFL team of all time"). Anyone have any good sources? --Midnightdreary 22:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Black ngold29 16:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The House That Clemente Built??????[edit]

With deference to Mr. Gershman's book, which I have not read, I would like to know what oriface he pulled that out of (as his book is cited as the source). I don't recall it ever being called that, even in small circles. If it was ever called that by anyone, it certainly was not by any stretch of the imagination mainstream or common, nor was it in Pittsburgh's vernacular. I love Roberto Clemente as much as any Pirate fan (even attended the last home game of 1972 as a little baby when he got his 3000th hit). I just believe Wikipedia should not list obscure references as if they are/were mainstream. Like I already said, this is the 1st time I ever heard that in my life & I used to go there a lot for Steelers and Pirates games (had season tickets for both teams for several years). If anyone ever called it that, I suspect it was near the stadium's demise. Of another note, the stadium was in the planning stage as early as the 1950's and Clemente died after the 1972 season (Not even having played there for 2 full seasons as they moved there mid-way through the 1970 season). The House Clemente Built indeed! As much as I do not like the Yankees.....try to be original (e.g. The House That RUTH Built). Willie Stargell was a GOD there far longer than the brief time Clemente played there (and he was a superstar by 1970 when the stadium opened), so I guess it was "The House That Pops Built" too! LOL In short it was never known as either (unless someone wants to pull something out of that oriface that I mentioned earlier. Or, if I can find a person or two that called it "The House That Pops Built," does that meet the requirements for inclusion (as it wouldn't be any less obscure than "The House That Clemente Built," aside from the fact that I lack any knowledge of it having been printed in any book......though I'm sure I can find a book or two that says that Lyndon Johnson had Kennedy killed....guess that should be included as fact in both of those articles too since it's printed in a book somewhere....LOL...of course it shouldn't). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.30.178 (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Though I'm a life long Pittsburgh sports fan, I wasn't alive during Clemente's life; the first time that I saw the nickname was in the book as well. The book does state that the nickname was "little-used". It seems that the "House that... built" is used quite often and I'm sure the Pens's new Arena will be called the House that Crosby built, etc. Like you said it is cited to the book and therefore verifiable, that does not however mean that the book is infallible, so it's up to the individual to evaluate the source. black ngold29 20:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That and "Blast Furnace" seem a little iffy to me. There are sources available for both, I'm sure, but "The Blast Furnace" was mostly just a contrived attempt in the 1990s to affix a nickname to the place in a manner similar to the Steelers' divisional opponents at the time, Houston ("House of Pain") and Cincinnati ("The Jungle"), as well as Cleveland's "Dawg Pound" area. It never really caught on. The only nickname I can remember being associated with the place is simply "Three Rivers", if that counts as a nickname. It's possible that the Clemente nickname was before my time. --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Official Website[edit]

Aside from asking the obvious question as to why the "official website" is still up, does the fact that someone apparently forgot to take it down (and the copyright date is 1998.....well before it was last updated even) make an abandoned website worthy of being listed (it clearly was not updated since 2000, right before the auction that took place to sell many items from the stadium). I'd like to think that it is not. It looks like it was a pretty lame site (even bv 2000 standards) to begin with, with very limited information. I wonder who is paying to keep that site up on a server somewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.30.178 (talk) 14:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From an historical perspective, which is the actually the entire perspective of the article, I think it is worth leaving up. And if the link ever breaks, it can be updated with the Internet Archive link. CrazyPaco (talk) 00:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy of Article[edit]

I'm not a Wikipedia expert, just a guy from Pittsburgh who was checking out this page for no reason really. I never edited articles before, but here's a couple quotes from the present version of the Three Rivers Stadium article that I would question:

"The Pittsburgh Pirates played their home games at Forbes Field, which opened in 1909,[5] and was the oldest venue in the National League (Chicago's Wrigley Field was next-oldest, having been built in 1914)."

Shibe Park in Philly was as old as Forbes Field, and Crosley Park in Cincinnatti was built in 1912, and both of them were still being used in 1970, the Pirates' final season at Forbes.

"The bullpens were moved to multiple locations throughout the stadium's history; however, their first position was also their final one—beyond the right-field fence."

I went to my first Pirate game in the early '70s, and continue to attend games today. I never remember the bullpens being moved at Three Rivers. One was down the left field line, and the other was down the right field line, near the foul poles.

"The sight lines were more favorable to football; almost 70 percent of the seats in the baseball configuration were in foul territory."

I don't understand how these two sentences are related. It is agood thing to have most of the seats in foul territory, the problem with Three Rivers was they were so far away, and not always pointed towards the best direction.

Just some meaningless stuff, I suppose. Maybe somebody could clean the article up.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.30.178 (talk) 07:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One other note is that in the article it states that the new site was in a part of downtown. The site was across the Allegheny river in the Northside. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.236.143.151 (talk) 04:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of succession box for Pitt Panthers[edit]

Succession boxes exists for all tenants. One editor insists that only the Pitt Panther succession box should be removed because it falls under the authority of the College Football Wikiproject. No authority exists for any one Wikiproject nor does such a policy exist across Wikipedia. Removing the box leaves the Events and Tenants listing incomplete. Please leave your commentary about whether it is appropriate to remove the Pitt Panthers or other succession boxes for this article. CrazyPaco (talk) 23:20, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Accuracy of cost figure[edit]

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette from 1997 lists the cost of Three Rivers Stadium as $35 million. Where does the $55 million figure come from? Thanks, Fractalchez (talk) 06:30, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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70% of seats in fair territory?[edit]

The article as it exists today (19 September 2023) states that for baseball, 70% of the seats were in FAIR territory. That doesn't make sense to me, in any ballpark. Shouldn't it be 70% of the seats were in FOUL territory? I also notice that an earlier comment above (from 18 July 2010) says "foul" territory. Also, it's not clear to me why this is bad. I assume that the percentage of seats in foul territory should be higher? I assume yes, as that would probably be the case if a stadium was not fully enclosed. 57.140.28.26 (talk) 20:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

Three Rivers Stadium[edit]

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many uncited paragraphs and an uncited "Concerts" section (which I think can be removed). Also, there is disorganised structuring with information about architecture in the "History" section and the "Stadium usage" section should probably be merged with "History". Z1720 (talk) 18:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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