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General Tone of the Article[edit]

The article contains a lot of very good information and is well organized, however, it reads like it was written by his publicist. It would be nice if the principle author of the article could perhaps revise it a bit so that it written more in keeping with the general 'factual' tone of Wikipedia, and less like a hagiography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.91.238.178 (talk) 03:32, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I absolutely agree and it still sounds like his publicist has written this... There's no spouses/partners/personal life section for one. There's a sentence that's trying to specifically point out that he was famous before Linda Evans is also very suspicious to even mention this. Sounds defensive. Chromatikoma (talk) 04:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+1 and when i tried to bring attention to it, i was reverted. ltbdl (talk) 07:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first post above was from nearly thirteen (13) years ago, in 2011. I am the editor who added to the article—mainly in the following year 2012—and I am not anyone's publicist. Very little is published about his personal life, and the absence of a "spouses/partners/personal life" section shows that the article is not trivial or promotional. The LA Times reference specifically describes the content re Linda Evans. I don't see any problem. —RCraig09 (talk) 07:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
really? you can't see the problem? let's see, eh, the last paragraph of the lead...

Yanni popularized the combination of electronic music synthesizers with a full symphony orchestra. He has employed musicians of various nationalities and has incorporated a variety of exotic instruments to create music that has been called an eclectic fusion of ethnic sounds. Influenced by his encounters with cultures around the world, Yanni has been called a "true global artist" and his music is said to reflect his "one world, one people" philosophy.

no problem my foot. ltbdl (talk) 07:45, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The content is meticulously sourced. Maybe you're subjectively uncomfortable with some of the content for some (unarticulated) reason, but that's not what determines the content of an encyclopedia. Reliable sources determine content. —RCraig09 (talk) 07:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
meticulously sourced to interviews. ltbdl (talk) 08:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Yannibook.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot 12:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC) [reply]

 Done I updated the fair use rationale, although I think a better picture would be nice. Sanjayhari 07:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest?[edit]

Didn't Yanni get arrested for domestic battery? Should that be in the article? Sanjayhari 02:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No because it is trivial event in his life with no charges filed, and because this is an encyclopedia and not a tabloid. ♫ Cricket02 03:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
True, but Yanni was arrested, just like Mel Gibson; check out his own wiki. I guess I'm not sure as to what constitutes gossip and relevant information. Also, Yanni's mugshot is in the public domain and could be used in the currently-photoless wiki. Sanjayhari 07:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please...don't even go there. There is no comparison to Mel Gibson. And I suppose if you were a notable person and had an encyclopedic article, you would certainly want your mugshot used to depict yourself? ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The encyclopedia entry should attempt to chronicle all the note-worthy incidents in the artist's life - good or otherwise. per WP:NEU OlkhichaAppa (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How is No charges filed and released the next day even come close to a noteworthy event in a comprehensive encyclopedic Biography of a Living Person? ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Not donePer WP:BLP: Biographies of living persons (BLPs) must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. Period. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure he'd want to put it behind him.Sposato (talk) 01:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do not include per Cricket02 and WP:BLP. I have reverted the two 23 Feb 2013 edits made by AdamsJane05 to the Lead paragraphs (the only two edits made on English Wikipedia by that account). The 2006 charges were never pursued beyond the night of the incident. And the 2010 article, which AdamsJane05 presented as describing a second incident, is a virtual copy of the 2006 article--there definitely weren't two incidents. This is the type of material that doesn't belong in a biographical encyclopedia article, especially in the lead paragraphs. RCraig09 (talk) 15:07, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yanni's legal name[edit]

This information is sourced based on a news article vs. public records. Furthermore, the Wikipedia guidelines ask for caution in revealing personal information that could be potentially harmful or disruptive. Yanni's legal name - if it truly is his legal name - should not be included in the article.Bonj100 (talk) 21:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 21:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also agree. Not to mention there's only ever been one source for the claimed real name. It would be a stupid thing to add to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.19.253 (talk) 01:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IPA pronunciation[edit]

Could somebody add the IPA pronunciation to the article? (an ogg with a his name pronounced would be good) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Equinoxe (talk • contribs) 17:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace?[edit]

According to the disambiguation article Acroyali, Yanni was actually born in Acroyali, not Kalamata. Can this be verified, and, if true, edited into the article? —QuicksilverT @ 18:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Acroyali is the name of a song that Yanni wrote, but many sources say that he was born in Kalamata, and he himself confirms this on the live concert film Yanni Live at the Acropolis. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 15:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The opening sentence to the Prelude on page 1 of his autobiography Yanni in Words: "When I was thirteen, I took a long walk with my father through the summer-parched foothills above Kalamata, the small port on Greece's Gulf of Messinia where I was born." RCraig09 (talk) 03:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Winter Light[edit]

I noticed the album Winter Light is missing from the discography, and the article doesn't seem to mention it either. — OranL (talk) 11:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It is another complilation album, added to list. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 15:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Standing In Motion[edit]

It should be noted that his single "Standing In Motion" music is used in the Fountain of Nations music performance in EPCOT at DisneyWorld. As well, his song "Looking Glass" can be heard in Innoventions area at EPCOT. Darkrobe (talk) 20:26, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources and citation[edit]

This article desperately needs secondary sources that are reliable. Claiming that Yanni's breakthrough video was the second best seller of all time and then citing an archive of his own website as a source is not enough: this does not provide an independent verification for the claim. (In fact, that archive now appears to have been removed since the link is broken at present.) Furthermore, most of the important info is cited either from another self-published source (his autobiography) or from the website of one of his labels (Windham Hill Records). Again, neither are secondary sources verifying the info but rather primary sources putting the info forward for inspection. --Jubilee♫clipman 22:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. While this article is significantly improved since I and others started helping with it in 2006, it still needs a lot of work. I have been meaning to start weeding through the bazillion sources on the net for a long time (in search of more independent sources), and will make it a point for the new year. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 00:40, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the article itself is pretty good! Well done to all for the efforts there. Good luck, Cricket, with your efforts to find decent sources (of which there must be thousands given his following). --Jubilee♫clipman 02:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The sourcing is fine better now. Good job, all! (Actually, there are some references to his own website: these are unusable as references for this particular article, I'm afraid, as they are primary sources --Jubilee♫clipman 22:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No improvements have really been done yet, I've personally been adjusting to a new shift and drowning in my work load of late, but this is still on my to-do list.... ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 21:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piano?[edit]

Further to the above, this article is in several "composer for piano" and "pianist" categories. The only places that the piano is even mentioned are the infobox, the lead and the "early life" section. Did Yanni continue to play the piano and write compositions for it when he had broken through? If not, the cats are pretty irrelevent and should be removed. If so, we need to make the continued piano playing and compostion clear to the readers otherwise they will wonder why those cats are there. --Jubilee♫clipman 22:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply with original research alone (by following this gentleman's career), yes, he definately still composes for and plays the piano. It is a major part of what he is known for still to this day, along with orchestrations for those compositions. I will add that to my list of sources to add. Thanks for looking in again Jubilee, your work and opinion are always appreciated. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conductor? Producer?[edit]

I just discovered Yanni tonight on Youtube (May 28, 2010) and was enthralled. Looking at the videos there, though, it seems to me that he is a conductor and producer, more than a pianist/composer, contrary to what this article says. Now, since I just discovered him tonight, I won't make the edit myself, but would like others who know him better to consider this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Last name misspelled[edit]

According to Yanni's official website bio (here) his last name is spelled with TWO S's. 70.72.215.252 (talk) 21:47, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've just looked at page 10, line 23, of the biography Yanni in Words which spells it Chryssomallis as you note. I'll read more on that since it may be more complicated (considering transliterations and all). RCraig09 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As far as the first name goes, page 17 of the biography says: "In proper Greek , if you were to talk about me, you'd refer to me as Yiannis; all male Greek names have the "s" at the end. Speaking to me, you'd call me Yanni. What few people know is that until I first went out as a solo artist I spelled my name "Yianni."" RCraig09 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what all this means for the different representation/transliteration now in the article: "Yiannis Hrysomallis" and "Giannis Chrysomallis" -- any experts out there? RCraig09 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I speak fluent Greek so I would write it as "Hrisomallis" to give the best possible chance for a non-Greek speaker to pronounce this surname correctly. Btw, his surname actually means “golden hair” although his hair is anything but golden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.191.168 (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yanni World Without Borders Tour in Israel[edit]

Strange. I have tickets to the Yanni "World Without Borders Tour", but Israel isn't listed on the cited Tour dates page. I've heard of artists not putting Israeli tour stops on public lists for security considerations... So far, I've found only this: http://igoogledisrael.com/2013/02/the-legendary-composer-and-pianist-yanni-confirms-a-june-concert-in-tel-aviv/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tewner (talk • contribs) 13:59, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL#1 says future events, whether concerts in Israel or any other location, generally should not be entered into Wikipedia until after they occur. RCraig09 (talk) 00:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA nom[edit]

This article is impressive to say the least. I just went through with a fine tooth comb to copyedit - and I made no edits at all! Perfect. Special shout-out to User:RCraig09 for all the hard work put into this article. I think it is ready for WP:GA nom. Any objections? ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 06:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. I'm involved in the article content rather than Wikipedia accolades. I've heard it can be a grueling and time-demanding process, but I'll defer to your will on the matter. —RCraig09 (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Gotta agree there - grueling and time-demanding. I did nominate. I think this article is well worthy of recognition - what a great job - so very interesting. I will be available to help out with reviewer comments when the time comes. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article is neutral, well-written, and engaging with good prose. It is very reliably sourced with inline citations for any published opinions, stats, and direct quotes. It has gone through an initial copyedit by myself for style, spelling and grammar, with very few minor fixes. While the article has had its history of vandal instability – vandalism has been reduced to practically zero since it has become of much higher quality over the last few years, and no history of edit wars to speak of. I will be available to help out with comments from the reviewer. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit discussion[edit]

  • This sentence has maint tag for citation: The ensuing Ethnicity tour would become the fourth largest concert tour of the year ranked by Billboard Magazine. (citation needed|date=July 2012)
I looked at List of highest-grossing concert tours and found this Google book ref [1] for Billboard magazine December 2003.
{{cite book|url=http://books.google.com/?id=bA8EAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false |title=2003 Top 25 Tours |work=Billboard|accessdate=2011-03-20|author1=Nielsen Business Media|first1=Inc|date=2003-12-27}}
However, the citation says Ethnicity was ranked at #22 (not #4) - (this is found on page 23 of this Billboard book reference_.
So question whether to change #4 to #22 in the sentence - or just remove the sentence altogether. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 05:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Removed. Since #22 isn't comparable in notability to other statistics in the article, I removed it altogether. Also, thinking long-term, it's hard (impossible?) to archive Google-book-search refs. (Good find of the reference, though, thanks) —RCraig09 (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. It is totally my bad - I'm sure I added it years ago and never sourced it - read it on Bradley Joseph's website and took it as gospel.  :) ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 17:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • When discussing a ranking of any sort, need to be consistent and choose either "No.1" or "#1" throughout.
♫ Cricket02 (talk) 06:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
✔ I removed "#" to avoid the issue altogether. —RCraig09 (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free content[edit]

This article has some serious issues with non-free content, and it is not going to be ready for GA status until these are sorted. First of all, there are eight non-free music samples; this is likely far too many. We should really be using as few samples as we can get away with; while there isn't technically a limit, eight seems excessive. On top of this, all samples should be a maximum or 30 seconds or 10% of the song length, whichever is shorter. (While it doesn't seem to be an issue in this case, samples should rarely need to be more than about 64 kbps.) Finally, each use of each sample requires a separate, specific rationale for each use. J Milburn (talk) 21:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will work on the sound samples by reducing them and adding a separate rationale for each instance. With as many compositions as this composer has released, I am not sure either about constitutes excessive. But I will have a look and get with RCraig09 to weed out any that may not necessarily go into detail about musical traditions, styles, or interrelationships, per WP:Composers, and see if any can be dropped. Will get back to you. Cheers! ♫ Cricket02 (talk)
I understand J Milburn's concerns. My thoughts: Since I purposely juxtaposed ButterflyDance with TruthOfTouch as contrasting early versus recent musical styles (making the article a bit didactic for the reader), I favor retaining those two clips. I also favor retaining AcroyaliSiM because of the referenced Mozart Effect. However, Santorini (the song, not the panda :-), Nostalgia, Tribute, MorningLight, and EndOfAugust aren't really substantively discussed in the article even though most have been in the article for a long time; I think these five clips are the main candidates for deletion, and removing them should overcome concerns of excessiveness in the context of the artist's prolificness. —RCraig09 (talk) 03:11, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, 5/8 samples are a lot to remove, especially for a composer article, since it is easier to understand a musical composition by hearing a sample (WP:SAMPLE). "Santorini" has appropriate sourced commentary and I propose to keep it. I also propose to keep "In the Morning Light" and "End of August" from In My Time that was nominated for Grammy. That leaves "Tribute" and "Nostalgia" and hate to remove since they are amazing compositions (WP:OR) but they would need additional sourced commentary. So I reluctantly propose to remove two. I would respectively argue that eight compositional samples out of better than 200 released is not excessive. But if agreeable to JMilburn we could compromise on six total. (WP:NFCCP) #8 Contextual significance. Samples are needed to enhance the historical and critical examinations of the excerpts. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 04:26, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If it were my decision, I would keep all eight clips, as practically any sound clip "significantly increases readers' understanding", and without hurting the copyright owner (Yanni's labels). However, the NFC criteria are written as clip-by-clip criteria, and we may have to appease some hard-nosed deletionists who take the view that only rare circumstances justify any use of NFC at all. Consensus will rule. —RCraig09 (talk) 05:05, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These are the files in question for ease of access (work is still pending tho - they still need to be shortened by a second or two, and possibly rationales tweaked): ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 06:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm worried your media-page work might be wasted, if clips are deleted on article-page grounds. I hope more people would comment, so one could gauge consensus. —RCraig09 (talk) 15:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The files do not need to be deleted if they are used legitimately elsewhere. They just have to be removed from this article. J Milburn (talk) 12:35, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And, for what it's worth, three samples seems fairly typical for an article of this sort and length. Some articles will need less, some will need more; ideally, you need to use as few as possible while still accurately displaying the subject's style. J Milburn (talk) 12:38, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I propose keeping 5/8 composition samples with sourced commentary. I've made notes to the files above. I think this is as few as possible for this composer who has released more than 200 compositions throughout his career to date. Also, I have finished reducing the samples and tweaking rationales, in hopes of complete NFC compliance. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 02:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I removed three files that were lacking in sourced commentary. File:Yanni Tribute.ogg, File:Yanni In the Morning Light.ogg, and File:Yanni The End of August.ogg. That leaves five sound files for examples of musical style for a composer and hopefully we can all compromise on this number. Cheers. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 06:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your efforts so far. Just a note- WP:SAMPLE specifies that samples should rarely need to be more than 64kbps. Also, once a new version has been uploaded, add {{non-free reduced}} so that the old versions are deleted. J Milburn (talk) 23:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 06:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edits by LowSelfEstidle[edit]

User:LowSelfEstidle has made numerous complex hard-to-follow edits from Sept. 10-17. NONE had edit summaries. Dozens and dozens of footnotes were edited to delete (useful) archive links and replaced with (useless) "Retrieved" dates. And he's used Yanni's autobiography as a source in twenty-seven (27!) footnotes--a suspect use of a self-published source (see WP:SPS). With minimal reliable content and maximum confusion, I think it's only practical to revert the article to its form on August 22 (before his arrival). He hasn't responded to my post on his talk page or my internal email to him.
Please, other editors, comment here to confirm whether you agree with a reversion. —RCraig09 (talk) 03:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the main editor on Yanni's Persian page. Besides the points rightfully mentioned by you, the article looks anything but concise to me now. Even assuming the edits are correct, question is, is this much lengthy detailed information needed here (e.g. the new paragraph on Optimystique)? Furthermore, I wasn't able to check some of the references, mainly those requiring subscriptions @ HighBeam, and as such, their reliability is questionable to me considering some strange points; e.g. "...his wife Lynda, to write..." I also agree on the fact that auto-biography-sourced material needs to be minimal. Overall, I don't find the new edits contributing to the article in a helpful manner, and thus second your proposal to revert the article back to the August 22 edition. Alirn (talk) 19:58, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To User:Cricket02: as a major contributor to this article in the past, do you have an opinion? —RCraig09 (talk) 23:01, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Per reasoned consensus, after eight days I've just reverted to the August 22, 2017 version, with the exception of LowSelfEstidle's understandable shortening of the Discography section. We'll have to move forward from that August 22 version, if reliably sourced content is found. I will update Yanni discography as needed. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:05, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Disavowed by artist in infobox[edit]

I'll just state here that I think including that Yanni doesn't think of his music as New Age does not belong in the infobox. Genre descriptions of artists are almost always generated by critics and fans. I am also sure many other artists do not prefer to be labeled as a certain genre, but I believe it would be appropriate to go into numerous infoboxes and indicate which genres the bands/artists disagree with. His "disavowal" of New Age is already covered in the text of the article, so the "notability" of his sentiment is covered. Angryapathy (talk) 18:35, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A) It's labels and vendors who mainly determine genres—for marketing purposes. In the case of Yanni, distinct from almost all others, avoidance of categorization in general and disavowal of that particular genre in particular, are essential characteristics of his artistry and even his identity, as expressed in the section Yanni#Music genres distinguished from the "new age" spiritual movement. It's precisely because of the notability of this characteristic that it should be included in the infobox which is supposed to summarize salient characteristics. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:56, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is Wikipedia, and while you may be very close to this article, he is a musician just like the thousands of other musicians with pages on this site. His success shouldn't mean we treat him any differently by making his infobox an exception to all other rules because he doesn't like a genre category. If his music can be found in New Age sections of music stores, and articles regularly described him as a new age musician, there's no reason to make a point in the infobox to indicate his disdain for that title. Again, the information about his disavowal is included in the article, and at length, so no information is being deleted. It's just that the infobox is not the place for that information. Angryapathy (talk) 13:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
B1) Perhaps I should have mentioned: it's not just that he "doesn't like it" but rather that, arguably, it is objectively incorrect—having been "adopted" by the new age spiritual movement. Actually, a stronger or more objective word than "disavowed" might even be appropriate in the infobox.
B2) Yanni's infobox is not an "exception"; any other artist whose genre classification is specifically and notably disputed should invoke such an infobox notation as well. To omit such a notation in the (prominent) infobox actually contradicts substantive content that's recited (much less prominently) in article text. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a few sources I found without trying very hard:
  • "The globetrotting new age musician..."[2]
  • "Greek New Age Superstar Yanni..." [3]
  • "New Age music superstar Yanni..." [4]
Saying "objectively incorrect" ignores that, despite Yanni's comments, he is seen as a New Age musician. Since this is Wikipedia, and we base our information on sources, stating that sources describe him as a New Age musician is completely correct. The genre section of musician infoboxes is usually a jumble of what various sources state about the artists. Yanni is not an exception. And I 100% disagree that we should go through every page so we can clutter up the infobox with unnecessary information about what the artists think of the genres they have been labeled with. Angryapathy (talk) 19:16, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
C1) Your references' citations are almost certainly derivative from the genre that the music labels and vendors promote his music as, and I agree that the references' (derivative) description is enough to cause the genre itself to be included in the infobox.
C2) However the "disavowed..." (or stronger) notation is proper here not because of what Yanni himself "likes" (as you earlier implied) but on an objective recognition of the difference between a music genre and a spiritual movement, the "adoption" of one by the other also sourced (you'll have to look at the archived versions). So no, the genre is far from "completely" correct; it's just applied a lot—at least partially incorrectly.
C3) And I can't think of a single other artist whose "genre" issue has become so notable. So, no, we do not need to "go through every page" to "clutter up" infoboxes. —RCraig09 (talk) 19:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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