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iMac/eMac G4s[edit]

There seems to be a little difficulty ascertaining the specific model of G4 processor used in the LCD iMac and eMac. Apple doesn't specify in either their developer publications. Not having hands on access I'm unable to run utilities which might divulge that information.

What utility would you run? I have a G4 15" SuperDrive (800MHz) iMac- david

I would think Apple System Profiler would do it... - Hephaestos 00:29, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

68040s[edit]

Some of the Macs listed in the 68040 category actually used the 68LC040 processor (no FPU). Unfortunately some models could have either one, depending on the configuration in which you bought it -- a given Centris 650 might have either one.

Yes, I'm sure my Performa 636CD came with an LC040 processor. As far as I'm aware, that was the only configuration, but I'm not certain enough to make the change myself. Dcrosby 03:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Performas[edit]

There are an awful lot of Performa models which probably ought to be listed.

References[edit]

How should we cite the sources for this page? I took a cue from the very similar Timeline of Apple Macintosh models page and simply added a References section to the bottom of the page.

I recently redid the PowerPC and Intel sections, and I used Apple History primarily for information, with MacTracker (which is more specific on processor types) and Wikipedia's own Mac pages (which are more specific on dates) for secondary sources. Since I checked the same information between three different sources, I think it's pretty accurate.

The exception to this is the G4 Cube, which Low-End Mac (and some other web sites) indicate switched from the 7400 to the more power-efficient 7410 in April 2001. I can add a footnote to clarify this case since this claim is based solely on user reports from around that time.

Are there any specific reference concerns with my methodology (which I plan to use on the Motorola section some day if there are no objections)?

While I'm at it, I have two questions:

What was the first Mac processor used in an multiprocessor configuration? Was it the 7400 or was there something earlier? I want to mention it as a note.
MacTracker notes a 604ev ("Mach V"; e.g., on the Power Mac 8600 and 9600 pages); was this significantly different from the 604e that it's worth mentioning here? Was this designation actually used by Motorola?

--typhoon 06:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit of the 68030 macs section[edit]

I edited the 68030 macs section a bit with the correct info, my sources are

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_lc/index.html

Click on the links from there on each sytem,

The info on everymac is quite accurate.

When i first edited this articl i changed the listed speed of the LC III, i know the speed is 25mhz also becuse i owned one.

The LCIII+ was just missing, it a boosted version of the LCIII with a faster processor and an fpu.

Twood1130 21:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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PC compatibility cards[edit]

Ought we to mention these in the article as well? [1][2][3][4] --92.17.45.229 (talk) 20:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Processor	Model	Clock speed (MHz)	FSB speed (MT/s)	L1 cache (bytes)	Introduced	Discontinued
Intel 486	DOS Compatibility card for Nubus slot -PowerMac 6100	66
5x86	7-inch PCI PC Compatibility card	100
Intel Pentium	12-inch PCI PC Compatibility card	100
Intel Pentium	12-inch PCI PC Compatibility card	166
Cyrix 6x86	12-inch PCI PC Compatibility card - PowerMac 4400 and 7220	133

Did you make that table in Word? Did Microsoft ... added a Wikipedia output mode?

The source code, which defies all rational explanation:


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Reorganization of the Intel chip section[edit]

I am not (yet) an expert at the intel architecture, but the overview table seems to be organized by process die size and has no entry for 32 mn process chips that follow on from Nehalem such as Westmere, Gulftown, Clarkdale or Arrandale. Am I missing something or can someone confirm this should be split differently? Bmike8 (talk) 22:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

M1 generation[edit]

@WikiEwout, IcyMeans, and Typhoon: Regarding the Apple Silicon chips: Should the M1 Pro and M1 Max be considered part of the same CPU generation as the original M1, and therefore be part of the same table? They appear to be using the same CPU IP based on the A14 as the M1 does, as noted by Anandtech, rather than being rebased on the A15. I think they are probably best thought of variants of the same overall generation, just as the PPC 7400, 7410, etc are shown together as variants of the overall PPC G4 generation further up the page (and likewise akin to the generations of the various 68k and x86 chips as well). Tomiĉo (talk) 23:30, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would also consider them variants of the same generation since, as far as I know, they have the same microarchitecture but arranged differently (more cores, memory channels, whatever). --typhoon (talk) 22:29, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion[edit]

This article has been proposed for deletion because: "No assertion for why CPU type is a notable characteristic per LISTN to highlight these; runs afoul of WP:DIRECTORY and is unsourced."

I object for the following reason(s):

Although it is true that there is no assertion of a notable characteristic, I will edit the article to insert that assertion.
It does not run afoul of WP:NOTDIRECTORY. It has a unique and important context and is not merely a simple listing or index. CPUs are the most important factor in the quality of the items listed and there typing is a key characteristic of the items.
It is not true that it is unsourced. There is an explicit section "Sources" with 5 sources in it, as well as 8 linked references. —GoldRingChip 12:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey Gold. In terms of being a notable characteristic, are there sources outside of directory-type listings/price guides or lists of Mac models where these are treated as notable things worth discussing? There's lots of "Intel processors" and "Apple silicon" talk in the aggregate, and the sources you added to the top again demonstrate the importance of talking about chips in Apple's computers, but that's outside the scope of literally listing every single chip.
- Secondly, WP:V requires inline or site-specific reliable sourcing. Much of the content in the list is beyond stuff like Apple's specifications (which need to be specifically cited, not just "go check these sites" which is what the article currently does) and Everymac and MacTracker (which sources from Everymac) aren't really reliable sources for our purposes, anyhow—they're personal historical blogs that don't have any editorial policies. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 15:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  You're right, that there needs to be more (and better) in-line citations! I've added some to a reliable (enough) source. I (or other editors, please!) could do more, but that's a start, I hope. —GoldRingChip 20:24, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a lot of interesting info here, seems to be a shame to lose it. Exact specifics are not actionable anyway. DGerman (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the solution is simply to copy/paste the article onto an Apple-specific wiki (if they want it) and let Wikipedia delete whatever they want. I don't think it's worth editing this site anymore; all of the broad topics are generally well covered, and covering anything in depth is probably a waste of time since someone will come along and delete it eventually. --typhoon (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fv Arifulislam2121 (talk) 21:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]