Talk:Dziga Vertov

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Comment[edit]

Well so obviously (if I may say so) this article still needs some work. Currently it has the bio up until about 1929, because the perceived conflict between Vertov's theory of work, his political writings, and The Man With The Movie Camera was the topic of my paper; I'll go back and find out what happened in the next 15 years of his life and add in a summary of that. But if someone here knows about it, why not go ahead and add it? <g> --Koyaanis Qatsi

Update:

I've been unable to find anything on the rest of Vertov's life. I think that, without having Vertov's collected writings to lean on, I won't find anything about it. --KQ

Old talk[edit]

My additions here are primarily biographical, since I know little of documentaries or film. Interesting note, however: brother of Boris Kaufman (On the Waterfront). Atorpen 23:39 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, interesting, huh? ... Of course, anyone who works with Lumet goes up a few notches in my book. Koyaanis Qatsi

More old talk[edit]

Would a reference to his later appropriation by Godard and Gorin be useful? Deleuze 00:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mistakes[edit]

Well, this article is catastrophically ridden with mistakes and lacunae. Check out Tsivian's intro to his "Lines of Resistance" for something better. Otiuqok (talk) 02:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biography assessment rating comment[edit]

Although the article received a B rating, the article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. Also, the references should be linked to the text of the article such as by using footnotes. -- Jreferee 18:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

deleted image[edit]

An image from 1934 film Three Songs About Lenin has been deleted.[1] This might be fair use on an article about the film, or that film could be PD by now. John Vandenberg (talk) 06:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

debord[edit]

Is there any proof that Debord was influenced by Vertov? His films are totally unlike Vertov's. Otiuqok (talk) 02:20, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt he DENIS Kaufman??[edit]

Not David. Denis! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.151.115.9 (talk) 17:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it is Denis then change the cyrillic as well. It says Denis in english letters and David in cyrillic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.210.30.67 (talk) 02:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DAVID ABELEVICH KAUFMAN. See V. Magidov, "Iz arkhiva Vertova." He later used the name "Denis Arkadievich," but was born "David Abelevich."

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Otiuqok (talk • contribs) 00:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Koyaanisqatsi?[edit]

Seems very similar to Man with a Movie Camera. Just wondering what text there was on that. --Dan|^(talk) 07:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vertov a cinematographer?[edit]

I noticed that Vertov has been added to [[Category:Soviet cinematographers]], however in his 1922 text WE: VARIANT OF A MANIFESTO, published in Kino-Fot, Issue 1 he specifically rejects the appellation "cinematographer" which he regards as referring to ", a herd of junkmen doing rather well peddling their rags" motivated by the " the cunning and calculation of the profiteers." I would suggest we remove this category, unless someone can come up with evidence that he subsequently shifted his opinion in this matter. Leutha (talk) 14:36, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictions[edit]

There are contrarictions inside the article. For instance, it says that Vertov lost his position because he critizised a film. The very next phrase says he lost that position because of a film he made.   83.32.27.150 (talk) 14:54, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]