Talk:Irfan Pathan

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Good articleIrfan Pathan has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You KnowOn this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 22, 2006Good article nomineeListed
February 22, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
July 23, 2008Good article reassessmentKept
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 24, 2006.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Irfan Pathan, the only bowler to take a Test hat-trick in the first over of a match, grew up playing cricket inside a Baroda mosque where his father was the muezzin, and could not afford equipment until his domestic team furnished it, at age 15?
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on January 29, 2011, January 29, 2014, January 29, 2016, January 29, 2017, and January 29, 2020.
Current status: Good article

Is this fact(?) encyclopedic?[edit]

It seems 12th December has been very lucky for Irfan Pathan. On that date, he debuted in 2003, got his first ten wicket haul in 2004 and debuted as opener(scored 93 runs) in 2005 [1]. Is it encyclopedic? --Gurubrahma 12:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I'm not inclined to note coincidences like that unless they become absurdly improbable, although others may disagree. Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:00, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think its encyclopedic yet. Makrandjoshi 16:38, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It won't be encyclopedic until he gets a century and ten-for on that day in 2006! GizzaChat © 12:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

Can someone upload and use this image? It's under {{cc-by-sa}}. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sundar! I have uploaded the image but it isn't a clear one & doesn't focus on Irfan. Can someone provied a better image? Thanks Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 07:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. This from here is better, but we need to get it released under a suitable licence by writing to the photographer. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Image is uploaded so don't worry!--HamedogTalk|@ 00:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA feedback[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
  5. It is stable.
  6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
  7. Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:
Two comments: firstly, there's a bit of unexplained jargon that non-cricket followers wouldn't understand - specifically "Pathan has since found himself dropped from the team in both forms of the game", where the fact that "both forms of the game" hasn't been metioned previously (ODIs and Tests, I presume). Secondly, the lack of image, although not a killer blow, lets this article down. I understand that Fair Use is a bitch in this area, but maybe try searching Flickr or somewhere for an image which has a good license (see WP:IMAGE). Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've broken his international career into three logical phases now I guess. Unfortunately, fans aren't allowed anywhere near players on the subcontintent, so we're without a free pic. I doubt we can pilfer one of cricinfos as fair use depiction of a historical event though. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that, given the way cricket in the subcontinent is, taking a photo of a player would be near-impossible. If you say such in a fair-use rationale on the image page, I see no problem using that Cricinfo image. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well to take a portrait, we could not use fairuse under any circumstances, as we could take a photo of him when he is overseas. However the fair use might be used to describe historic events (non-repeatable clause) such as the hat-trick. however, I'm surprised we have never used that excuse on any cricket articles. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'm going to promote this after discussion with the primary author both here and in instant messaging chat, after the prose was fixed up, the structure improved and some minor jargon points clarified. I'm envoking the clause about "not having an image does not mean GA" in this case, however it would be great if you could get one that is appropriately licensed. Cheers, and good work, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Irfan Pathan/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment. This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there is one issue that needs to be addressed.

  • It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  • It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
The only problem here is the uncited final section "International comeback". Once that is cited this will qualify for GA.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:46, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Please make sure in future that the coverage on this (and any other active sportsperson) article is kept up to date several times a year.--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  • It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
  • It is stable.
  • It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
  • Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Regards, Jackyd101 (talk) 16:46, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see they are sourced, but can we have the sources properly formatted please?--Jackyd101 (talk) 14:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All done, very nice.--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life[edit]

Hi, due to the youth of this sports person, it is acceptable for their personal life section to only cover the period before they began their career. However, as they grow older it becomes more important for information on their life outside sport to appear in the article. Please ensure that as the person develops their article does too. For an example of how such a section might look, see Brian Urlacher and for pointers on how to expand and improve such a section, see this guide. Thanks--Jackyd101 (talk) 10:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

name[edit]

his name should be written in gujrati as well. cd s'body pl do this. thanx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.124.247.56 (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too much Detail[edit]

The article dicusses way too many cricketing number for way too many cricket matches. It is heavily condensed and slightly unreadable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.240.128.75 (talk) 14:01, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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