Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Freeman

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The result of the debate was to delete, but as the content has already been merged, and the consensus minimal, I will leave it as a REDIRECT to James Shepherd Freeman. Feel free to list on Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion if you disagree. Postdlf 23:21, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

James Freeman

Google doesn't seem to have heard of him. He's categoried as a Secy of Labor, but Labor's never heard of him. He was asked by Reagan, and then -- nothing? Also delete redirects leading to him. He may be real, but we need references. --Golbez 08:24, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete unless somebody can verify this—I couldn't. The two other Freemans added by this IP are real enough, but this one smells like a hoax. If he had been such a "prominent corporate and political figure", something should turn up. Also, the way this article is linked from Shirley Temple and Union Carbide makes me less than confident that this article is for real. He allegedly dated Temple when his father was posted in Hawaii—before World War II, i.e. before 1942. In 1942, he would have been 16 years old, Temple 14... Barely possible, but still... Lupo 15:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, unverifiable, hoax. Megan1967 04:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Comment, I have long been acqainted with the Freeman family - specifically with the late Jim Freeman Jr. - and submitted the related articles while I was working on a project for the Walker County (Alabama) Historical Society. The family has done an enormous amount of good for the community of Jasper and the state of Alabama - as well as the city and state of New York (where they raised their children on Park Ave. and in White Plains), and while they remain a generous and somewhat legendary local entity, I suppose Jim Freeman's (James Freeman Jr.) entry doesn't qualify for placement with wikipedia. While his information is accurate (he was indeed asked by Reagan to serve as Labor Sec, but declined in favor of retirement/ also, did date Ms. Shirley Temple as a young, fifteen year old teenager while she was filming a movie on location in Hawaii - the relationship being more interesting than notable), his work with Union Carbide - and a socially/politically connected life - hardly qualifies him as an encyclopedic article. His heritage was quite distinguished (did in fact drop out of the naval academy, however, using his father's connections had the dismissal recorded as "medical"/ after rejecting a military career, followed more in his grandfather's footsteps of business and politics), and while the family's legacy continues to some extent, I will surrender the entry for deletion. My reason for such an awkwardly long comment here is that, after by chance coming across the "up for deletion" message on his page, I wanted to explain the submission of his bio in the first place - out of respect. Thank you for the work you do, I think this is a fantastic reservoir of information. --Original Author 08:17, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge. I appreciate the author's thoughtful and judicious comments as well as his or her contribution of research. The story of Mr. Freeman is of interest, but his notability is primarily through family connections. I propose merging his biographical information into James Shepherd Freeman. Dystopos 02:43, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

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