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FYI: I left User:Vancouverguy and User:Dunshi notes asking them not to declare that people are banned who haven't been.Vicki Rosenzweig 02:59, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks very much - I should have done that myself really. --Camembert

I'm not the one who announced that. Vancouverguy 02:59, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Indeed. Anyway, it's wrong whoever said it. --Camembert

Oh, it added something, all right: a sense of disorientation and nausea as the blue links seemed to split into two and drift apart and the whole screen took on an otherworldly shimmer. ... Don't try this in a dark room, or sitting close.  ;-) Koyaanis Qatsi 00:36, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Heh - I already tried switiching the light off with it. I am typing this from a horizontal position on the floor. I expect I'll recover shortly ;-) --Camembert
I'll pray to Bob. Koyaanis Qatsi 01:00, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Your prayers are welcome at this testing time. --Camembert (who always quite fancied taking up pipe-smoking, but doesn't think he could pull it off)

You're right about just intonation limits, they are prime numbers. Hyacinth

Thanks!Hyacinth


I've just put more information about sopranistas in - see the talk page also. -- David Martland 21:55, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Hey, in the course of doing an E. Power Biggs page, I just noticed we don't have anthing about tracker organs. Should I make that a separate page, or a section of the general organ page? Noel 01:26, 14 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Jesus, who invented Patrol Chess? It looks tortuous.


re:anechoic chamber "song" is a funny word - replacing with "composition"

Good choice! I knew something was awkward when I wrote that, but had a bit of brain fog and couldn't quite figure out what it was. Thanks. -- Tlotoxl 00:38, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Hi, given that you are a chess contributor, I would be glad if you would express your opinion about National chess champions, which is marked for deletion and nobody except me is saying anything about it. If you support the deletion I will agree with it. Thanks in advance. Jmartinezot 10:18, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I wouldn't support deletion, but possibly it should be moved to List of national chess championships. I'm a bit short of time at the moment, but I'll have a proper look at it later tonight. --Camembert

I think you are right and that List of national chess championships is a better title. Thanks. -- Jmartinezot

Fun with German[edit]

On Mozart, Austria, and Germany, see this report of an ambassadorial complaint. It's sort of a senseless issue, since some will conceptualize "German" as an ethnicity, others as a nationality, etc., and will argue for their choice from vast resources of amour-propre. Maybe we'll wind up having to call him a "European" composer <G>. -- Someone else 02:12, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)


A noble and no doubt thankless task you have set for yourself. I myself have always preferred Shakespeare in the original German.... -- Someone else 02:32, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Hm, not sure I like the idea of being noble - Elgar was always being noble, and I never much liked Elgar. But, as the Bard of the Oder said: Ganze Welt ist eine, er, Bühne, und alle, erm, Menschen or something, und... ah well, you get the idea. --Camembert

Bon mot (possibly) of interest[edit]

There's a bon mot of sorts on William Shatner's version of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, which I fear you'll miss unless specifically directed there (and to read to the end<G>!) -- Someone else 02:05, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Heh - thanks for pointing it out, I would indeed have missed it otherwise :) --Camembert

Hello Camembert

This is about the 'Safavid': Seeing everything back to what it was so quickly was much unexpected. As about 'Safavies' I made it from 'Safavi' according to English language. The count for 'Safavi' in Google is 8230 and for 'Safavid' is 10800. I appreciate what you are saying but you have to understand that there is no pronunciation of ’d’ in the word. I guess the mistake comes from the foreign writers which have not been familiar with Farsi. Anyway as we all trying to develop the encyclopedia it's better to teach people the proper spell and pronunciation of the word. As I said before there is no need to delete 'Safavid' we can have that in the 'safavi' page as an alternative spell so people can get to the page with both spells but they learn the right one.

If you want to discuss this matter please leave your note on Safavid or this page. Thank you

Thanks for your note: I've repsonded at Talk:Safavids. --Camembert

Scribble away, by all means. If you could tie in Evolution Control Committee with The Bran Flakes and DJ Shadow that would be great; if not, that's the way of wikipedia.  :-) Koyaanis Qatsi 01:26, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

That's a great start you made. I made a few minor expansions and corrected some typos (there was another which I didn't find again--I guess someone else will).  :-) Anyway, the only change I thought you might not like was to remove "edited and/or" from "edited and/or altered": it seems to me that altering encompasses editing but editing doesn't include recontextualizing an entire work (a la the Whipped Cream Remixes and many DJ mixes). What do you think? Koyaanis Qatsi 13:25, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC) P.S. on reading the article, it seems that citing sources is a requirement to qualify as plunderphonics. Is that the case? If so, I've made a bad recommendation: DJ Shadow either cites some but not all of his sources or makes some of his own (at least on Private Press), and The Bran Flakes don't cite any (at least on Bounces!).
Bounces! has enough energy in it to power a small town for a week. ... Dictionaraoke sounds intriguing; I'll have to look into that. Koyaanis Qatsi 12:10, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Given your conversation with User:JoeM, you may be interested in helping to improve common sense conservative.


I think I'd better stay away from that one, thanks (by the way, I'm not sure I had a conversation with JoeM - I think I just had a conversation with an anon user on his talk page). --Camembert

Oh, wow, how did we both miss that?  :-) Koyaanis Qatsi 00:08, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I'll put mine down to forest-for-the-trees syndrome. Koyaanis Qatsi 00:15, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I put it up without much testing, so please let me know if it blows up or something. :) --Brion 00:21, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

About the Weimar thing[edit]

Please see my talk page at User_talk:WhisperToMe about the Weimar thing. Yes, I am planning to make Weimar a disambiguation page. - Whisper


Thank you. johnhays0

Your HELP doesn't list "Reference(s)". I found it last week. But now can't find it.

I've left a little note on your talk page - if you're worried about the business on disability don't - it's no big deal what heading that reference/further reading is under. --Camembert

Thanks for the comment, Camembert. Your work on Wikipedia is likewise appreciated!

--Opus33

Copyvios[edit]

It seems that the golf articles were submitted by their original author so I have reverted the copyvio notices on the pages for now and passed the details onto Jimbo. Angela 22:23, Sep 14, 2003 (UTC)


Hi, I have a question about this latest Michael appearance...if he (or anyone else, I suppose) moves a legitimate page to a junk page, you would then delete the original page so you can move the junk page back? At least, I think that is what you did just now :) I'm curious because I couldn't figure out how to revert that when I saw it, and for some bizarre reason I like to help clean up after Michael appearances. Adam Bishop 01:51, 17 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I was gonna edit the chess page, and i stared at it for 20 seconds and left the wiki to go play my computer. heh -- why write about chess when i can play it? Pizza Puzzle


Hi :) Mind if I borrow your Image:6thchord.png to tweak around for Music notation? Dysprosia 13:08, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)


I wish to adjoin two references to the "Pythagoras" article. One is The Pythagoran sourcebook and library, by K.L. Guthrie; the other, The Magic of Numbers, by Eric Temple Bell (as a page here), about Pythagoras. In htm, I could squeeze them ahead of the marker. But I can't see how to squeeze in with your system. Appreciate some guidance.jonhays 20:26, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I'm probably not going to be very clear here, but I'll have a go: all you need to do is put a new line below the last item on that list, and begin it with an asterisk. The parser will convert any line that starts with an asterisk into an underordered list item. So, for example, if you put something like this in the edit window:
*This is unordered list item number one
*This is item number two
*This is item number three
It'll get turned into this:
  • This is unordered list item number one


  • This is item number two
  • This is item number three
The parser closes the list automatically, you don't have to worry about putting html in there or anything. I hope this helps. --Camembert

Thank you. I've used asterisk for a new list, but hadn't tried in in extending a list.



Hey, Camembert! Unblock a Michael IP!


[edit]Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Camembert. The reason given is this: Autoblocked because you share an IP address with "Hephaestos' Wikipedia account". Reason "Name used by Michael, a banned user.". You may contact Camembert or one of the other administrators to discuss the block.

Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a valid email address registered in your user preferences.

Your IP address is 64.12.96.201. Please include this address in any queries you make. -Wiwaxia 16:19, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)


All the MP's nicknames I've added are widely used, so I thought they'd be suitable. Perhaps a page called "List of MPs nicknames" would be better? Max2 18:24, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)


No they're not. Secretlondon 18:34, Sep 30, 2003 (UTC)

Well, I've heard of some of them, at least. Anyway, a list seems a reasonable idea to me. --Camembert

What a wonderful article on the social history of the piano. Excellent work! Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен из Детройте 04:29, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

It is indeed wonderful, but... I didn't write it! You want User:Opus33, I think :) --Camembert
Thanks for the heads up...I guess I shouldn't edit things after my bedtime ;+) -- BCorr ¤ Брайен из Детройте 13:33, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Regardless of spelling, we can know one thing for certain: Timothy Leary is officially post-larval. -- Someone else 01:54, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Post-everything by now, I guess. --Camembert
Compost, I'm thinking <G> -- Someone else 03:48, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

If your Balanchine question was not rhetorical, yes, whatever you did works for me. --Someone else 02:46, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Good good - I was just on my way to ask you how he looked. (I took the height specification out of the div, by the way - Fernkes said it's necessary for proper display in IE, but I'm not sure that's true - looks fine to me, anyway). --Camembert
Just tried it in IE 5.1 on a Mac: looks good there too (so that's Mozilla & IE on a Mac that are ok). <G> - Someone else 02:56, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
And it looks fine to me in IE 6, Mozilla and Opera 6 under Windows (spit), so I think we're OK (though I can't speak for VIC-20 users ;). --Camembert

You wrote:

Rick, Donnie hasn't "created multiple user pages" at all - he hasn't even created his own. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that Donnie is the same person as User:Tester.

Sure there is. I find Tester's contribs pretty convincing. -- Cyan 01:32, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

There are two possible hypotheses about the users listed on Tester's contributions:

  1. All of these users are distinct people;
  2. Some of these users are the same person.

There is a distinct similarity between Donnie Ng's style of contribution and Wartortle's style of contribution. But the clincher is this edit by User:Groessler, which strongly suggests that Wartortle and Groessler are the same person trying to appear to be two different people. Upon careful thinking about the matter, I admit it's unclear Tester is part of the group of aliases. -- Cyan 02:02, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Ack[edit]

thanks, next pint on me... Viajero 19:55, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I'll hold you to that, you know ;) --Camembert
Hey, good luck with list of classical composers, I wouldn't wish that one on my worst enemy... Viajero 20:13, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Yes, that thing's a bit of a nightmare. Any day now I'll turn it into something really wonderful. Maybe... --Camembert
Maybe if you stir List of 20th century classical composers into the mix it will taste a bit better... ;-) -- Viajero 21:05, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

You've made links in the section heading "External Links" begin with a lowercase L, saying that was how it should be. However, the vast majority of Wikipedia article have the capitalisation "External Links", and for the sake of conformity and coherance it should be that way with all edited or new articles. So, I've reverted your change. Kricxjo 10:49, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Well, I think "vast majority" is over doing it a bit, but in any case, see the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. (slightly longer response on your talk page) --Camembert

A really great, clear, concise piece on Glass opera 'Einstein on the Beach'. Hard to believe after 1639000 odd articles no-one had written about it before not even by a U.S. citizen!!Norwikian 13:59, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC

Thanks, but I only made a minor edit to it - somebody else wrote the bulk of it (such as it is). Great piece though :) --Camembert

That is some mighty task you've set yourself (20th c. composers)! I thought that you might have omitted Arnold, (whom I've met a couple of times) but on closer scrutiny the composer of the whistling melody for the film 'Bridge on the River Kwai' has not escaped you!!Norwikian 14:07, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Well, I'm not really setting myself any tasks, I'm just writing what I can when I can. By the way, I don't think Arnold wrote the whistled melody in ...Kwai did he? It's the "Colonel Bogey March" (by F.J. Ricketts), I think. He just arranged it and wrote the rest of the music in the film (OK, I'm a pedant ;) . --Camembert



Re Eugene Istomin. I haven't been able to confirm the accuracy of what he played at his debuts - see the comment on the Talk page. You might be able to investigate further. Thanks. David Martland 06:51, 19 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I'll see if I can dig something up when I can get to books (tomorrow (Monday) hopefully). --Camembert

I noticed that someone started an article on Eliahu Inbal. If you know anything about this conductor, perhaps you could add something. -- Viajero 18:45, 20 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I just saw your edit to the page on Recent Changes and was on my way over to have a look at it :) I'll see if I can add anything. --Camembert

I could have sworn I checked for bullroarer when I created the first link for bull-roarer. I guess not. Anyway, thanks for merging in a way that kept attribution to me in the article history, though since it was just me on the dupe, a note to that effect in the summary line would have been plenty for me. Thanks again, now to fix the links... -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 19:11, Oct 22, 2003 (UTC)


RE: Opera box game. You have stated that "Opera box game" would be a better title for the article than "Opera game." I was under the impression that "Opera Game" is an exact title, rather than a mere description, thereby necessitating its usage. (I have not heard of any other title for the chess game, except for "Opera House Massacre," which might provide some unintended connotations.) I thank you for your concern. --Lord Emsworth 23:57, Oct 22, 2003 (UTC)

I have no objection if you wish to rename the Opera Game. In re the PGN Format, I chose it since the pages on the Immortal Game and the Evergreen game also use it; I assumed that PGN is the standard format for this site.


My interest was picqued by your comment about the Opera Box Game. I put some questions there about the identity of the participants and the opera, I'm thinking of trying to identify the Duke and Count, but if you already know, do chime in! -- Someone else 00:57, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Just had a quick look through my books, and I can't find anything more precise than "the Duke of Brunswick and Count Isouard", I'm afraid. I'll ask around and see if I can come up with anything better. --Camembert

OK. I voted to delete it. Thanks. 戴&#30505sv 05:52, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Hi Camembert,

The musical examples for Symphony_No. 13_(Haydn) are very nice. Can you tell me what software produced them?

Thanks, Opus33 02:56, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Hi, how did you block Michael if he has a user ID? I've blocked him in the past when he shows up with just an IP, but I don't know how to do that with a logged in person. I suppose there are special powers I don't have :) Adam Bishop 01:48, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Actually, those are special powers you do have. Apparently, because of Michael and his usernames, sysops can now (relatively recently) block logged in users, in case of dire emergency where the bans have been approved by the Supreme Benevolant Dictator Jimbo the First. Κσυπ Cyp 07:49, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Can you revert the vandalism at Product life cycle management. I cannot do it since you are blocking me again. mydogategodshat 05:52, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Sorry about that - you must have been sharing an IP address with User:Michael. Hopefully that shouldn't be a problem any more. I've undone the vandalism. --Camembert

Thanks for the Sibelius link, Camembert. Opus33 19:12, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)


What is this "Adam Carr thing" you have removed? Adam 01:56, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC) (Adam Carr)

Thanks for that. Yes I did miss a meeting with Tim although the reasons were a little more complicated than that. Could I ask that you delete the whole thread? It makes no sense without Tim's original comment, and since Adam Carr is my real name, I don't really want it sitting there in Announcements for no good reason. Adam 02:11, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yes that is what I mean. Thanks in advance. Adam

EdW[edit]

Just finished Edo de Waart and welcome comments/additions/corrections etc. Cheers -- Viajero 13:39, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Taw is a uncle-fucker[edit]

This page was an inside joke between the other #wikipedia irc users me and. Don't consider it vandalism! We were going to revert it ourselves but you beat us to it.

<quinlan> taw: how about a page named taw is a uncle-fucker ? <TimStarling> brion: some people do <taw> quinlan: what about redirecting it to User:Taw ? <aplank> taw: i will do that for you <brion> some people care about really stupid things <quinlan> taw: great, so I can link through that page any time and Wikipedia will confirm it? <quinlan> taw: that is non-NPOV <taw> how do you know i'm not one ;-P <quinlan> redirection can be used to express a POV <quinlan> Clinton is a war criminal <taw> how do you know he's not one ;-P <aplank> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Taw_is_a_uncle-fucker&redirect=yes


Greetings. What software did you use to create Image:Timman-short smothered mate.png. I'm wondering because it'd be cool if we could agree on some standard software for creating chess diagrams. I've seen a couple of different looks on wikipedia, and it'd be great if they were standardised. I haven't found any software that would fit the bill though. (cross-platform, free, relatively easy to use) Cheers, snoyes 01:36, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hehe, I see you just answered my question. --snoyes 01:38, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess for the moment we'll just have everyone use whatever is available to them. I'll keep an eye out for software that would meet all the necessary conditions to be standardised upon though. Cheers, snoyes 01:54, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yeah - let me know if you find anything. --Camembert

Good stuff with smothered mate. Cheers, Cyan 02:00, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks very much :) --Camembert

List of famous operas[edit]

I posted a proposal at Talk:List of famous operas last week but have had no responses. Care to weigh in? -- Viajero 11:04, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I'll have a look tonight when I've got a bit more time. --Camembert

Vertical Bruckner Rhythm[edit]

Just wondering if you had had a chance to look at the score or listen to Bruckner's Symphony No. 6 and think of a better way of stating that the Bruckner rhythm in that work occurs both vertically and horizontally? Del_arte


I don't think its necessary to list the names of his compositions, in the first paragraph -- Re: Johannes Brahms Lirath Q. Pynnor


I feel that, except in a situation such as with Dead Souls, where one work is exceptionally notable, we shouldn't list the works. I was merely trying to move the list of how prolific he was (4 symphonies, etc) into the first paragraph. My edits would be better, but, Im sure you can see that Wik's harrassment makes things difficult. Lirath Q. Pynnor

Im not trying to show how "unusually" prolific he was, he wrote 4 symphonies, Im merely trying to note that. Lirath Q. Pynnor


Esa-Pekka Salonen: Have anything to add? -- Viajero 23:08, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I've stuck a few more bits and pieces in there. --Camembert

Kurt Eichhorn ditto -- Viajero 20:22, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Can't help on that one with the stuff I have to hand just now, I'm afraid, but I'll add it to the list of things I've to look up in Grove when I get the chance. --Camembert

Calling me a "prick" is not reasoned discourse. And deleting items from the VfD page because you don't like having them on there is not appropriate behavior. RickK 04:13, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Whereas of course "OliverP is out of control" is reasoned discource. And I didn't delete items from VfD. Why, that would be almost as bad as deleting pages outright, wouldn't it. --Camembert

Thank you for your apology. I accept. RickK 16:17, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Neeme Järvi - another conductor, stub. -- Viajero 14:24, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

There's a bit more there now. --Camembert

You can delete those pages made by User:Michael and redirected there by me if you want—I was just redirecting them because I don't have the ability to delete them, and it seemed like the next best option. -- Mattworld 01:39, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I think in cases like User:Mr. Bush, where he's actually used that name to edit, it's best to keep the redirect in place. Not sure if there are any others you redirected, but they probably do no real harm anyway. Anyway, have you thought of asking to be made an admin? You could delete that sort of stuff yourself then. --Camembert

There is a reference to the term sopranistas in the castrato article. Is this the same as a counter-tenor? -- Viajero 21:00, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

That's a good question, and I don't really know the answer. All I know about the subject is what's on sopranista itself and its talk page (where I queried the term myself a few months ago). I'd never heard of the term until I saw it here on the Wikipedia, and when I tried to look into it further, I didn't come up with anything much, so I don't know any more, I'm afraid. --Camembert

Thanks for noticing the issue about greatsite.com being the ones who were plagiarising, not us. I hope you don't mind, but I've copied your comment over to Wikipedia:Sites that use Wikipedia for content. Angela 02:30, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

No problem at all - whatever helps. --Camembert

Thanks for putting in the semicolons I left out of Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra. I feel like such a fool! I am still new at this, but hope that I now have the knack of producing special characters. Flauto Dolce 03:32, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for expanding that article, by the way - it was pretty sorry looking before you did! --Camembert

Didn't understand your comment about "clear" that Luther was copied rather than a copy. When I researched the history (before posting my comment to Angela) there was no clear time precedent and the Wiki version looks like a copy of the greatsite.com version. Joelwest 05:47, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

If our version was a copy, I would expect it to have been copied in a big lump. That's not happened - the article has been built up in pieces, as most Wikipedia articles are. Fuller answer on your talk page. --Camembert

YAS: Peter Maxwell Davies (Yet Another Stub) -- Viajero 23:15, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

NAM (not any more :) --Camembert
Wow! Impressive destub operation! -- Viajero 01:27, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

thanks for the bobby fischer explanation. Xah P0lyglut 16:26, 2003 Dec 12 (UTC)

No problem. --Camembert



Before you change the Wikipedia:WikiProject Poetry page, maybe you'd like to join and discuss? Bmills 14:14, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I feel equally strongly that you're overreacting. Please start a discussion on the poetry project talkpage. Bmills 14:32, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Well if you insist... --Camembert


Yes, I've known Tom since he published me in In Folio in the mid 80s. He's a great guy and if you like his work you should contact him via his web site. The collected is great to have. I have written a few articles about people I know/knew a bit, but it is so hard to be objective about Tom that I asked for advice on Village Pump before writing that one and then kept it very short and factual. Bmills 15:54, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)


In retrospect, you were right. I'm happy with the changes you made. Bmills 09:44, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Re: Classical music (disambiguation). Revert away if you must. I hadn't seen the talk page comments and was pursing an unrelated agenda. I'm not going to put it back. Had you been a little more patient, you would have seen that I had moved the disambiguation material to the top of the classical music article, and I was in the process of orphaning the page for deletion. I'll stop now, you can wrap up the job if you wish. UninvitedCompany 00:25, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Patience isn't my strong point... Longer response on your talk page. --Camembert

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I'm just trying to make sure the usefulness of articles isn't diminished. Longer response on your talk page. --Camembert

While you may have a point about the edits, I would have appreciated some discussion before just reverting that portion of the edit. I'm trying to contribute, and if you feel so strongly about edits like that that you can't afford the time to discuss them before reverting them -- then I'll just bow to your greater expertise and go work on something else. UninvitedCompany


Being bold in making necessary edits is fine. Being bold in reverting the work of others, and then asking questions later -- oh never mind. UninvitedCompany

Yes, I agree, but to dexcribe restoring content which you had deleted as "reverting the work of others" is a little wide of the mark, don't you think? --Camembert

Hmm, Image:Lilypond output.png was the replacement image for Image:Lilypond output.tiff I think the wrong one was deleted (along with the tiff version). I'll hunt about for a copy of the image (or I will generate a new version). - Tobin Richard

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:41, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:45, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:45, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:45, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:45, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:46, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:46, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Camembert, are the Hegel redirects ("Georg Hegel") really important to you? Please see the Talk:Georg Hegel (my comments from last summer) and User talk:Jheijmans for details. Love your music articles. All the best, --KF 15:46, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

PS Obviously I didn't post the above comment several times. But it seems to take up to five minutes to save a page, and with the Hegel comment I thought it hadn't worked at all. I don't know what's wrong. I'm now going to press "Save page", have a cup of tea in another room and ignore this machine for some time. --KF 15:59, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page (short version: I was just fixing double redirects, it's now back to it's old location, and I've no problems with that). Hm, tea, there's an idea... --Camembert