Talk:Tricolour

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Comments[edit]

Should we divide this incomplete list into two sections? One for true tricolours and those with symbols? -- Netsnipe ► 16:43, October 25, 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Also, is a tricolour with a symbol that has a color which is not one of the three colors still a tricolour? Do we need to differentiate between those two? Nikola 06:05, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Questions (open as of December 2005)[edit]

Were there any tricolours before the French Revolution, or is that the origin? Either way, we should give the history of the spread of this type of flag. -- Jmabel 23:50, Jul 1, 2004 (UTC)

The "Confusion and profusion of meanings" section is a string of "some say...some say...some say..." It makes for very unpleasant reading. Can you make it better so it doesn't sound like a section made up of hearsay?--24.5.125.75 22:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The old flag of New York was the old Dutch Blue,White,and Orange vertical flag which would have pre-dated the French Revolutionary Tricolour. 20:17, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Tribands[edit]

Why does this page list not just tricolors but tribands as well? Tricolor is a subset of triband; shouldn't the two-color tribands be listed under triband? SpaceCaptain 16:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GB and USA?[edit]

Why are Great Britain and USA on this page? If we were to include every single country with three colors... Iceland, Norway, so on. They are even more similar to a Tricolor than the GB flag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.184.195.114 (talk) 08:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Defaced"[edit]

Do we really want to replace the readily understood "with a symbol" with the correct but obscure and potentially confusing heraldic term "defaced". - Jmabel | Talk 05:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because it's a well-known term in vexillology and not too difficult to grasp. —Nightst a llion (?) 21:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in some sense it is "not too difficult to grasp" but in the U.S. at least—and that's a pretty bit piece of the English-speaking world—"flag defacement" means pretty much the same as "flag desecration". - Jmabel | Talk 18:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vertical tri-colours and revolution[edit]

Vertical tri-colours are said to be specific to countries that fought a revolution (e.g., Italy, France, Mexico, Afghanistan, etc). Is there some corroboration on this? If so, can it be added to the main page of Tri-colours). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.211.155.168 (talk • contribs) 10 January 2007.

It can be if you find a source backing up this claim. Otherwise, it sounds like simple speculation to me. Rudy Breteler (talk) 20:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

US and GB[edit]

The definition you are giving for tricolour is:

"A tricolour ("three colours") is a flag or banner more-or-less equally divided (horizontally, vertically, or, less frequently, diagonally) into three [emphasis added] bands of differing colours."

Notice the definition says only "three" bands of differing colors. With all due respect, why are the United States and Great Britain here? Crazypersonbb (talk) 21:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the same. But if you read the article carefully, it says somewhere that "some" people interpret the term "tricolour" differently (allegedly). Still, the fact remains that the article contradicts itself and is confusing. 86.146.226.38 (talk) 08:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as nobody has countered your statements, that the other tricolour meaning is uncited, and that I am in agreement with both of you, I am going to edit the page to remove the US, British, and other flags which are not proper Tricolours. Rudy Breteler (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I see somebody has tried this before. I remind everyone that discussion of page edits are to be made here on the discussion page, not through competing edit summaries. Rudy Breteler (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uzbekistan[edit]

If you say that Uzbekistan's flag is trcolour you're wrong 'cos it has blue, white, red and green colours and I'm not sure but I think they are four colours =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.33.91.44 (talk) 23:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ethymo[edit]

I just wanted to say that, in my opinion, the ethymology of the word "tricolore" should be added. It takes origin from the Italian "tre" (three) and "colore" (colour-color). Thanks

It's more likely to be Latin and the etymology is fairly obvious. But also see Wikipedia:The Pope is Catholic. Graham87 11:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A slur for the French Tricolour is the French 'retreat-colour'[edit]

The French Tricolour is widely known as the French reatreat-colour amongst the Anglo-Saxon and Germanic world and amongst the colonies nowadays and free from French imperialism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.69.58.27 (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery[edit]

Would it not be better to show the flag images using the standard .SVG images that exist for all (or most) flags? While the images of the flags fluttering in the wind are pretty, I believe the standard images would be more informative. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 November 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Also, Tricolor will be moved to Tricolor (disambiguation). (closed by non-admin page mover) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 05:37, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tricolour (flag) → Tricolour – This subject seems to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The other collection of important topics are football teams, but the tricolour they have is derived from their flag. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:43, 18 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 19:05, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The primary name is currently a disambiguation page located at the American spelling Tricolor. This move would be shifting that to the British spelling. This seems like a back door WP:RETAIN violation. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:18, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am suggesting to keep Tricolor being a redirect to Tricolour and move the current Tricolor to Tricolor (disambiguation). That is no violation of WP:RETAIN. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose given Tricolor In ictu oculi (talk) 21:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that this page does currently exist is no argument to oppose anything. Could you elaborate this a bit please? PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - No evidence has been presented to show that the flag type, by whatever spelling, is the clear primary topic. See WP:PRIMARYTOPIC#Is there a primary topic? for what evidence needs to be presented when making a nomination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BilCat (talk • contribs) 20:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Absolutely the primary topic. I don't honestly see how anyone could think otherwise. Move Tricolor to Tricolor (disambiguation). -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:29, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, clear primary topic. The Merriam-Webster definition explicitly lists flags, the Cambridge dictionary has flags as the main meaning, Collins has flags as the primary meaning, as does the Britannica dictionary. CMD (talk) 15:45, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as above, this is a clear and obvious primary topic. By long-term significance, and common usage, when people talk of a tricolour, they mean the flag. Most of the other usages derive from that, or are somewhat obscure names, e.g. those of the football teams, which don't rise to the level of challenging. The RETAIN argument looks the most spurious I've seen in a long while. This article has always been spelled the British way, so if it's move, RETAIN mandates that it stay that way. The article was originally at Tricolour anyway, until a 2014 move. — Amakuru (talk) 11:03, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Color has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 19:04, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relisted for participation, current replies are split ASUKITE 19:05, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support and move tricolor to tricolor (disambiguation). Shwcz (talk) 12:45, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Language[edit]

Why was this article written in Hiberno-Englis? Is there still a broad consensus for that? I'm not convinced that this is a good idea. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Galleries use too much vertical space[edit]

The images boxes in the galleries are needlessly tall. Please could those who know how to fix this be encouraged to fix it. JDAWiseman (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery ordering[edit]

Galleries are ordered by country name, alphabetically. Would anybody object to my re-ordering by colour, so that (at least mostly) adjacent flags have similar colouring. E.g., observe that IE ≈ IT ≈ MX ≈ FR ≈ RO ≈ BE ≈ MD, in that order. JDAWiseman (talk) 10:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]