Talk:Bionicle

Maori vs Lego

Some mention needs to be made of the Maori vs Lego issues that these toys caused, see:

• http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,56451,00.html
• http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/06/01/newzealand.maori/
• http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1619406.stm
• http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0211/S00055.htm

Mata Nui Online Game II

- To all who played the mnog2 game and can't finish because of the glitches i have made a statement on the MNOG2 talk page and also made a petition. if you agree with the statment said there (it says:i think that the glitches that keep u from finishing the game should be fixed! i want to play the whole game! i am asking everyone to send an email or go to the website and find a place to post messages to the bionicle staff telling them to either fix the glitches or remake the game exactly the same but with the glitches fixed. please do this! Knapper1176 (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

- ) then please sign the petition and do what the statement says. thanks! Knapper1176 (talk) 18:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Secondary Colors

Doe this seem really nessessary? The sets are easily identifiable as they are. There really is no use to list secondary colors. If someone can explain solidly why these should stay in a week, I wont remove them. Unknown Toa 19:04 February 20 2006

New content

Can someone please go to www.bionicle.com and update this article? John Khoo (talk) 09:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Why don't YOU do it!? BIONICLE233 (talk) 13:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.11.11.12 (talk)

Trademark

Bionicle is trademarked in all caps. Shouldn't this article be moved to "BIONICLE"? Opinions are bad! 04:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The page exists, it just redirects here. :/ Bfahome! 04:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, then should it be then other way around? XD -- Opinions are bad! 05:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

No that would go against the WP:MOSTM. There are some exceptions to this guideline but none of them apply here. --76.71.211.198 (talk) 02:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Though there would be no objections if you changed the article lead to something like

Bionicle (trademarked BIONICLE) is a...

preferably accompanied by a respective citation. – Cyrus XIII ^(talk) 02:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I AM HAVING A PROBLEM THAT YOU KEEP DELETING THE BIONICLE PAGES FOR NO REASON, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS!!!!! C'tan Nightbringer (talk) 03:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Because there is a whole other wiki about Bionicle. Wikipedia is probably deleting them because they wants to keep it simple. The average reader is not going to understand what Bionicle is! But if a reader does, and whats to learn more, then he/she can go to BS01. The Bionicle wiki. BIONICLE233 (talk) 18:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

That's a piece of crap. There are wikis for other stuff like Batman and Heroes, why not delete those pages?--Carolinapanthersfan (talk) 12:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

C-Class rated for Comics Project

As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment and list the article. Hiding T 14:54, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

I just finished cleaning up after some vandalism on this page. i had better not see any more vandalism here. User:Phantokachao

Plot summary

Do we really need a 70-kilobyte plot summary on this article? 194.100.223.164 (talk) 13:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the plot summary, thereby shortening the article by almost 90%. And looking at the history, the plot summary used to be twice that long. If someone feels it's relevant, it can be added back, but please, please, more concisely. There's really no need to essentially duplicate the entire script of the show. I have written articles about Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes, and they've been about a tenth of this length, at the most. JIP | Talk 19:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The way the artice looks now, at only 11 kilobytes, is much better. JIP | Talk 20:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Correct. If anyone here has heard of BIONICLEsector01 wiki, the article for that was only about 1/3 as long as the old version of this article.--Star2009 (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Makuta Teridax

I suggest we make a page of Makuta Teridax for 2 reasons:

First, as compared to This guy and And this guy and This girl, all characters from a minor 2006 television series that lasted 18 episodes, and Teridax has appeared in, not 1, but 2 direct-to-video movies. Second, he has mad a signifcant, if not major role, in every year of BIONICLE.

How can you disagree when we have such charecters from a defunct, unsuccesful 2006 series that had only 18 episodes.--Carolinapanthersfan (talk) 00:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Second,

So, where did all the discussion about the creators go? One minute there's an intense argument about whether the guys who actually created this monster should be on the wiki page at all, the next it's relegated to a sub-page, and now, nowhere. So where are we, Greg, or have we been expunged from the history? I think at least a credit would be nice, given the billions this thing has made. Cheers, Alastair —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.213.99 (talk) 21:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

2010

Where was that info confirmed?--Star2009 (talk) 02:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Good question. Until there's a citation, I'm removing that part.--Twilight Helryx (talk) 14:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Why I've removed the subsections for Bara Magna

Here are my reasons:

1) None of the other sections have any, even though all have books, some have promos, and 2003-2005 had movies.

2) They're unnecessarily cluttering up the page. There should either be a separate section about the books/movies or we should leave stuff about them in the template.

3) If you're worried about the fact that there isn't an article about the books, don't worry. I am happy to assure you that anyone who really cares would go to List of Bionicle media (which just so happens to be in the aforementioned template). As for the promos, I don't think they meet WP:NOTABILITY as just about everything has a promo and if we list them all, there would be no end to them. But for those who really must know about the various Bionicle promos, you can find info about them on Biosector 01.

So there you have it. If you have any disagreements regarding the removal, please feel free to comment why you don't think so.--Twilight Helryx 21:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Hidden message re spoiler warning

I removed it -- we don't do spoiler warnings under any circumstances. – ukexpat (talk) 18:15, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

URGENT: The Three Virtues

This is a very important theme in the Bionicle storyline (whether spoken or implied) but this entire article does not directly address these. However, I haven't figured out how to squeeze those in without breaking the flow of the summary so if anyone knows how to get them in, please do so. Otherwise, we'll be forced to remove the image from the article.--Twilight Helryx 01:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

No more Bionicle sets after 2010 Bionicle Stars?

Okay, I'm officially confused. I just reverted an uncited edit that said there would be no more Bionicle sets after Stars. I at first dismissed it as a rumor and reverted it but after doing another search, I saw a Eurobrick announcement on Google that said there would be no more afterwards and the Bionicle line would be replaced with something else. However, I currently cannot access the page so could someone verify this for me? Man, I really hope this isn't true. I mean, come on, there's still a 2011 storyline, and some time during 2006, Greg Farshtey said they had the Bionicle story planned out for the next twenty years.--Twilight Helryx 19:09, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

First question:What is Stars? BIONICLE233♥♠♣ 19:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Bionicle Stars. They're the Winter 2010 sets. I hear that they're supposed to be a sub-theme containing a roster of the most popular sets of each "era". Sorry. Clarified the title. I am partially asking to decide whether to include it into the article and partially because of my own emotions.--Twilight Helryx 19:46, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

So you would like to put in the article that there will be no more sets after Stars? Thats ok with me if thats the question. But I highly disagree that there will be no more sets after winter of 2010. Thats crazy! If Greg says that theres more story lines coming for the next 20 yrs, Lego wouldn't just stop making BIONICLE sets. They would lose lots of orders. BIONICLE233♥♠♣ 20:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I think so too; it's just that I saw a small piece of a Eurobricks topic that said there won't be any but I just wasn't sure what to believe. I'll see if I can get onto BZPower to see if this is true. You know what else is nuts? I saw a fragment of another announcement that says there won't be any sets but the story will. Come on! If there are no sets, how can the story survive? Only a few devoted fans would gather and Bionicle would come crashing down. Besides, I'm pretty sure that LEGO wouldn't try to attract new fans (which is partially why the 2009 story isn't in the MU) only to stop selling the toys about a year later. If that's the case, then I would that that would probably be one of the dumbest bad business moves in history. >_> --Twilight Helryx 21:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I wanted to know whether this is from an official source. However, I cannot currently access the sites so I would appreciate it if you could check them for me. Here are the links:

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32222&st=1575

http://thebionicle-blog.blogspot.com/

--Twilight Helryx 21:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure the people that wrote that stuff were stupid teens saying stupid stuff. Trust Greg and Lego, not the other guys.

And about the links, I prefer not to go to sites I have never heard about before for fear of spam, spyware, viruses etc. Sorry. BIONICLE233♥♠♣ 21:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay. But if anyone else is willing, he or she can go right ahead. In the meantime, nothing about this subject in the article.I'll go to BZPower as soon as I am able to in order to in order confirm or refute this topic.--Twilight Helryx 21:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The Bionicle Stars are the last bionicle sets. The story will continue, though. --Bold Clone (talk) 21:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, now that is officially ridiculous. (not you Bold Clone, I meant the idea) I wonder how the story would last without the toys. Unless, they intend to re-release old sets? Has Mr. Farshtey or someone from Lego directly confirmed this? Sorry, I haven't been able to check on BZPower. x.x" --Twilight Helryx 22:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've just went to BZP (on another computer) and the Stars are indeed the last sets for Bionicle. I guess we'll see how they manage to keep the fans coming in. Please ignore my above comments; I get a bit neurotic when stuff like this happens. x.x" I will go ahead and add the references in (the Bionicle blog is going first, I'll add BZPower as soon as I have access again). --Twilight Helryx 00:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats surprising! I can't believe it! Whats Lego doing?! I guess our collection ends there my friends. Hopefully they'll bring back old ones I missed. BIONICLE233♥♠♣ 14:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we better get all the available ones while we still can. Guess this means I better start searching the web a 2003 Takanuva (the one I want the most but missed when it came out)and the Toa Nuva sets (which I've always regretted not getting) before their prices jump. But don't worry, the story won't end (yet). I'm just wondering how long it'll last without the toys. I really hope that they find some other way to promote the story. The announcement is still sitting at or near the top of the BZPower news section so can someone grab that link for me? The reason I'm asking for it is, besides the previously mentioned reason, because that version is directed at BZP members and has a part saying that Lego would collaborate (or something like that) with fans to expand the story. And don't worry, I know that site very well and am also a member (under the same user name as the one right now) so I know there aren't any viruses and the like.--Twilight Helryx 17:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Is lego CRAZY? this is their dumbest move since canceling exo-force in the middle of the story--Chaos of Air, ONLINE (talk) 04:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, be glad that at least they're not canceling the story for Bionicle. According to Mr. Farshtey, the story will continue until at least 2011, and that's only because Lego doesn't have anything planned for anything for 2012. I just wish they didn't cancel the next movies; The Legend Reborn had ended with a massive cliff-hanger. If you still want to follow the story, just go to bioniclestory.com; that's where the whole story's going to be for good while (the 2010 book is going to released in the US as web serials instead). Okay, from this point on, we'll discuss the "has Lego lost their mind?" topic on bzpower as per WP:FORUM and because last I checked, the discussion for this topic is still going on on BZP.--Twilight Helryx 13:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bionicle/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 16:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this page against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Checking against GA criteria

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose):

   • The article is very poorly written, with poor grammar. Nearly every sentence contains these faults. Please enlist the aid of a copy-editor who understands how to write good clear English; it needs to be clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent. You may get help at WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. The story section is too long, there is no information on reviews of the product, sales or product development. The controversy section is mainly a list of bullet points. Please read WP:MoS.

   •  Question:  : I can fix the grammar (though it would take some time). I'm guessing by "story section is too long", you mean I should add more of the others, right? As for the controversy section, should I remove all those language things and only include one or two in a sentence?--Twilight Helryx 01:32, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
   • No - I meant that the story section is too long. What we need is product description, product development, etc.
   • My thoughts exactly. ;) But I hope this doesn't mean we have to chop it down because those info are important; they're what sets Bionicle apart from the other Lego sets.--Twilight Helryx 14:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

   Comment Ill be more than happy to help out with the grammar and spelling. (My spelling on-wiki is very bad but in real life I am a very good speller. I guess im not all that good at typeing)--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 23:11, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

   b (MoS):

   • The lead should summarise the article. Please read WP:LEAD for pointers. At present it just contains information that should be in a background section. The article would also benefit from the addition of an infobox.

   •  Done I think. I've added the story info in and someone else has added the infobox. Should I also put the Maori language controversy info in?--Twilight Helryx 20:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

   Please re-read WP:LEAD. The lead should summarise the whole article, in the manner of an executive summary.

   • Will do.--Twilight Helryx 14:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references):

   • The only third party WP:reliable sources are at the beginning of the Maori controversy section. The rest are WP:primary sources. Such sources may be used but not as the majority of sourcing for the article.

   •  Done:Chopped the section down to size and sourced the "Naming Day" info.--Twilight Helryx 20:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

   b (citations to reliable sources):

   • Three refs as per above are RS. The Bionicle blog, ref #2 is a fan blog, largely reproducing material from official sites in contravention of copyright.

    Done Removed source.--Twilight Helryx 02:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

   c (OR):

   • WP:OR appears evident in the Controversy section.

   •  Done: Fixed per above.--Twilight Helryx 20:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
3. It is broad in its scope.

   a (major aspects):

   • Missing reviews of the product, sales or product development, as per above

   •  Question:  : It's kind of hard to an official review but I'll try. I have no idea where to find sales figures. As for product development, an interview with staff I've seen a few years ago is gone now and the place where I can find a history is on Biosector01 and the Bionicle Wiki, neither of which can be approved as reliable sources because they're both wikis. And unfortunately, the contributors don't leave any citations. Do you have any suggestions for me? Or can I just get away with just the reception part?--Twilight Helryx 01:32, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
   • You need to go out and look for information. I found these articles using a five second search on Google. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], there are many more sources out there, you need to go out and look for them. You need to be prepared to undertake some hard work.
   • Oh, *facepalm* Of course! I've been using the wrong keywords! >_< Anyway, thank you very much; I'll do some careful research whenever I'm able to, though I would appreciate some help from other users.--Twilight Helryx 14:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

   I would be more than happy to do this. But where should I put the reviews in the article? Shouold I make a new section?--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 15:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

   Yes. Same goes for Production which I will do in a moment.--Twilight Helryx 15:19, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

   Ok. Well I cant really domuch untill later tonight. (My day is very full today)--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 15:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

4.  DoneAdded all the requested info in.--Twilight Helryx 03:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

   b (focused):

5. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

6. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

7. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):

   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

8. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   • I am inclined to fail this immediately, but if these issues can be addressed in seven days the article may be worthy of GA. At present it is clearly not. On hold for seven days. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
   • I have received a further request to extend the hold to the end of January which would make it six weeks. I feel that this is really too long. I was happy to allow two weeks over the Christmas holiday period but six weeks is too long. As a consequence I will not be listing it at this time. I recommend that you get the article copy-edited, reduce the Story section and provide information on Reception. When that is done you can re-nominate it at WP:GAN. I would also suggest that you read the archived peer review and the FAC reviews as many points in these still remain un-addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your time. I have one favor to ask. I will not be able to edit on Wikipedia until Chritmas and many of these issues could be easily resolved, so could you not fail it after the seven days have passed? Cheers, Twilight Helryx 20:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I am happy to extend the hold until 2 January 2010. Let me know if you have sorted things before then. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I know this is very late and I apologize, but I would like to say that I will (and have already) be putting questions, comments, and {{[Template:Done|done]}} templates in your list.--Twilight Helryx 00:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Ill be happy to help with any task that you guys give me. (So long as I get credit...no that sounds greedy, nevermind)--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 17:02, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

If you've helped, there's a user box for GA's. Just look on User:AnmaFinotera's page. ;) Alright, back to work. =P --Twilight Helryx 18:52, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Comics?

Anyone know enough to start an article on the comics? I was just redlinking it at Bionicle (comics) so thought I;d throw it in here. (Emperor (talk) 02:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC))

Images

Is the lack of images due to copyright issues or something? I can't help but feel that something as visual and tactile as Lego (albeit more than just simple sets, but an entire story arc apparently) should have at least two or three pictures illustrating what is being talked about. Thoughts? I don't really know the whole finding a good legal image process, and don't intend to learn it right now as I once again ended up here from an entirely different topic that actually was relevant to homework. That happens a lot :P Cheers! Imascrabblefreak (talk) 05:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I added some pictures found on Flickr that were openly licensed. Secondplanet (talk) 16:00, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Bionicles replaced by Herofactory

Most of you have probably noticed that the Bionicle stars is the last set( :'(). But the fear not! HeroFactory is Just as cool!

TaRiX oF tAJuN 21:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

External links and BS01

== External links == <!-- A note to anyone editing this, please, read the discussion first. Thanks! --> * [http://www.biosector01.com/ BIONICLEsector01.com], ''An external wiki''

I saw a few threads on this subject, but I don't know what the wikitext comment is referencing. It seems like there was consensus against adding other wikis, but where is the consensus to add BS01 from editors not affiliated with BS01? It would appear to fail WP:ELNO#12 otherwise. Also I know there used to be two official Lego links, but those are now dead. czar ♔ 04:17, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

cultural reference tip off

hello? this message is to be relayed to BZPower. I have spotted a Bionicle reference in the most recent episode of the Clangers, "Small's New Star". Amongst a shot of the clutter in the Iron Chicken's nest, I spotted an old Bionicle part, specifically one of the additional foot parts to Pohatu's feet (his 2001 and 2002 incarnations). Visokor (talk) 17:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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I believe that a look around the internet for new external links and sources is necessary. Many of the sources are dead links or deleted accounts. I'm sure that most of that information is saved somewhere, most likely the way back machine, so getting new links shouldn't be that difficult. --Gry3y-- (talk) 22:03, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Removal of story section

The story section takes up over half of the entire article's length, and consists almost exclusively of in-universe plot summaries. Do we really need it? I think it should be removed from the article.

The article originally had over 100 kilobytes of nothing but in-universe plot added in April 2009 by an anon IP user, but it was removed. The same should be done now. JIP | Talk 11:03, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

• There had been no replies here for four months, so I just went ahead and removed all the plot information from the story section. It cut the article length in half. JIP | Talk 12:49, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I say add it back. It's important for the overview. --Luka1184 (talk) 21:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

"List of Bionicle characters" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Source on BIONICLE launching in 2000 in Europe?

Is there a source on the statement that BIONICLE launched in Europe in 2000? I've seen "December 30, 2000" written in some places, but only on other encyclopedias so that can't be used as a source. If it's truly December 30, it's probably more accurate to say "January 1st" anyway, no? Surely they meant to launch it on January 1st in Europe, I mean, if toys already started appearing in December 30th, and some stores simply decided to put up some of the toys early? Luka1184 (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Redirects for toas

Redirects for several fictional characters have been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 12#Various Lego toas. – Uanfala (talk) 13:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)