Talk:Eddie August Schneider

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Karen Russo[edit]

Nov 21, 2006 1:47 PM

Hi Mr. Norton,

Our Aviation Hall of Fame & Museum sells a book entitled from the Balloon to the Moon which was written by our director emeritus, H.V.Pat Reilly. This book is a time line of every even in New Jersey's aviation history.

Eddie Schneider is included in this book. In 1933 Eddie Schneider became the principle operator of the Jersey City Airport at Droyer's Point. The airport, a popular general aviation field, was ordered closed the city council under the iron fist of Mayor Frank Hague, on Dec. 31, 1935.

Scurrying to find a new base of operations, Schneider planned to establish a flying school at Floyd Bennett Field in Bklyn., but first joined Bert Acosta and other American pilots to fly for the Loyalist cause in the Spanish Civil War. When money promised to the mercenary airmen was not forthcoming, they returned to the United States and picked up their flying careers.

Schneider's Brooklyn flying school afforded him a living in the late Depression years. Then tragedy struck in December 1940. While giving a flying lesson to George Herzog of Brookly, Schneider's plane collided with one flown by a naval Reserve pilot Ensign Ken Kuehner, and crashed killing him and his student. The Navy plane landed safely. Eddie Schneider was only 28 years old.

Hope this info is helpful.

Karen Russo

Bulleted timelines[edit]

"This article is in a list format that may be better presented using prose. You can help by converting this article to prose". Only the timeline is a bulleted list, if it was in prose, it would be the article itself. Are timelines banned? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:55, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the template to avoid confusion. Timelines are allowed for year, century, decade, etc articles; biographies are appropriately presented as prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What !Wikilaw are you citing ... chapter and verse please. Are you planning on tagging everyone of these: Category:Personal_timelines --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:20, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at that category, all but one of the other articles listed is a standalone timeline/chronology rather than an actual biographical article. I've tagged the one other exception. Nikkimaria (talk) 10:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus for your position at the talk page on timelines. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:42, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No one responded to your post at Wikipedia talk:Timeline, and at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography#Timeline_section_of_a_biography the consensus was "in biographies editors prefer prose format over a timeline section" (and as another editor commented, "this sort of thing doesn't add any value to the Eddie Schneider article"). With regards to your other concern, the current documentation for |parents= supports that they should be notable or particularly significant, which is not the case here; if/when this changes the issue can be revisited. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Again, the discussion at WT:BIO closed with consensus against your position. The discussion at Template talk:Infobox person has not yet closed, so it's premature to try to implement a change based on that; the current consensus, until that discussion is closed, is that reflected in the documentation at Template:Infobox person. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:12, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA article Albert Einstein contains a bulleted timeline. If you can get them to convert it to prose, or if you can get the same tag to stay attached to that article I will accept it here. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:40, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Regarding this edit-summary, simple editing disputes of this nature are not typically addressed via ANI, but via discussion on talk (ie. here). You previously sought feedback in multiple venues about this issue, and as summarized above that feedback generally concluded that the article does not gain value through inclusion of the list. You also stated above though that you would accept not using a bulleted timeline here if editors at the Einstein article did, and it would appear they have. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:54, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]