Talk:Giuliano de' Medici, Duke of Nemours

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When you say "is the genealogy correct?", what specifically are you referring to? There have been a number of errors in the Medici pages caused by the repetitive names - e.g. I just fixed the death date of Giovanni di Bicci, whom someone had confused with Giovanni di Cosimo. I could easily believe there is another one somewhere! However, AFAIK everything on this page is correct at the moment. I do know there is some historical controversy as to whether Alessandro is the son of Lorenzo II or Cardinal Giulio; Wikipedia is currently going with the theory that he's of Giulio, but I personally have no strong views either way. Noel 14:30, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

As for me, I was just struggling to disentangle second-hand sources. "Correct at the moment" is good to hear! Wetman 22:10, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Different sources (e.g. Hibbert, Britannica) give different birth years for him - some say 1478, other 1479. Some geneaology sources give both. I throw up my hands! If someone can get a definitive answer, feel free to fix it. Noel 18:01, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'll make it 1478/1479 til we can establish whether this is simply the familiar Old Style/New Style contradiction about the start date of the year. Wetman 22:10, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The Raphael portrait that's spoken of - which museum is it in? People aren't thinking of this famous Medici portrait by Raphael, are they? Noel 18:01, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Oops. The version that's so familiar-- simply because I'm a New Yorker-- is the 16th-century studio copy at the Met. I thought the original was famous, though I've only known the copy all this time. The triple portrait is indeed a better-known painting, I agree. Wetman 22:06, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hmm, I wonder where the original is? I don't recognize it (but then again Renaissance art is not my strong suit). I tried doing a web search for it, but there was too much other stuff in the results. This page shows a better image, if you want to link to it. Noel 22:50, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sometimes "famous" originals get lost, like Michelangelo's Leda but stay famous through copies and prints and interpretations. (That link doesn't look good on my browser: tobacco-red). But this "famous" needs to drop out of the entry. Wetman 00:33, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Lorenzo de' Medici (1463–1503) - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 11:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]