Talk:Robert Creeley

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Mallorca?[edit]

No reference to Mallorca? How can anyone place The Island in context without knowing about Mallorca. I'll log in this weekend if possible to correct this. Snakespeare 00:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

in progress Snakespeare 00:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chicken Farmer[edit]

The chicken farmer bit in Life should be verified.... it was next to another piece of obvious vandalism that I just removed. --Stefankamph 20:02, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The chicken farm is a verifiable fact. It was in Littleton, New Hampshire. He was 23. The story goes that he wrote to Cid Corman whose radio show he heard on the farm, and Corman had him read on the show, which is how Olson first heard of Creeley. Snakespeare 00:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

death[edit]

Where is it reported that he died? I can't find it anywhere... that's very sad.

I first saw it on Metafilter. I was shocked as he was a formative influence on me. They had no useful web reference; it was a private gathering at the end, and the FPPer was given the information personally by someone attending if I recall. Only two obits were showing a day after, but more info is now up: Google News --AllanBz 21:22, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

article organization[edit]

This article needs better organization.

For information on affairs (which keeps being reverted out) see this article, for example. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 04:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused about the Pound-Olson-Creeley Connection, in that I've always felt that Pound belonged with Eliot. My sense has always been that there is a Williams-Olson-Creeley connection and that they were in most ways unlike Pound and Eliot. AshDean 19:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this article will expand to include a reference to Bobbie Louise Hawkins. Hawkins was Creeley's wife for a long time (18 years?) and is a significant poet and fiction writer in her own right.

Problematic paragraph[edit]

This paragraph seems to have been inserted with good intentions but it's not encyclopedic and reads more like a personal observation and opinion more appropriately mentioned in a eulogy:

"In his later years he was an advocate of, and a mentor to, many younger poets, as well as to others outside of the poetry world. He went to great lengths to be supportive to many and he had great sympathy for 'ordinary' people. Responding seemed to be essential to his personal ethics, and he seemed to take this responsibility extremely seriously, in both his life and his craft. In his later years, when he became well-known, he would go to lengths to make strangers, who approached him as a well-known author, feel comfortable. In his last years he used the Internet to keep in touch with many younger poets and friends. He was rather shy, somewhat cautious, but he was not at all afraid; he would stand up in situations where many others would not."

I did not want to insert fact tags because these are not things that can be easily cited. They are observations and as such, they constitute Original Research. See: WP:OR. I'm leaving it for now since I'm not familiar enough with the subject to hammer something useful out of the text. If nobody cares to help, it might be better to simply remove the material for now and leave the text here. LiPollis (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Analysis of 'Hero' - low quality[edit]

Isn't this just stupid and bad? As though lines which vary from three to seven words without any fixed pattern don't constitute free verse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.205.178 (talk) 23:59, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, quite shitty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.89.156.192 (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Penelope Creeley?[edit]

Nothing in here about his widow Penelope Creeley? This seems odd in an otherwise somewhat overlong biography section. I believe they met around 1976 or so, and she was with him (along with two of his children) when he passed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.246.239.203 (talk) 00:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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