Talk:Egyptian hieroglyphs

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Vertical Stroke meaning disputed[edit]

"they are always accompanied by a mute vertical stroke indicating their status as a logogram" -- I agree this is the consensus interpretation of the Z1 vertical stroke(coptic - roht).

Nearly example I've ever seen follows a glyph with an "r". I consider this glyph to be an "r" determinative(still silent), but signifying that there is an "r" present. Whether this is after "per" or "re". It is also possible that a glyph has 2 different readings(ie 2 words for goose), where one of the words has an "r", and this signifies which word for the glyph to use. So I believe this logogram theory/interpretation is incorrect; both interpretations make the z1 heiroglyph silent, so it is mostly theoretical as to the why. 2601:58B:E7F:8410:30E3:3636:9B1C:7EB0 (talk) 19:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure word example[edit]

O34-G38-G1-A47-D54 - keep, watch
This particular word does not exist in Faulkner, Vygus, Dickson, or AED(German) dictionaries, with a g38, but does exist with a g39 (wrong goose is shown). And the translation is wrong according to 3 dictionaries, and is based solely on the A47 glyph (guard determinitive).

There is no coptic equivalent of keep or watch starting with an s, or an s-s; the translation is suspect. The word has multiple determinatives(ignored glyphs), and is a bad teaching example.
O34-s [in ptolemys]
G39-Coptic smoune - goose, large duck (not gb/geb as in g38)
G1-Coptic Ahom - eagle, vulture
A47-Coptic eloiH? - shepherd (determinative?)(or guard determinitive?)
D54 - walk/move determinative or suffix?

"linger, await, creep" -- AED/Dickson/Vygus