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Content Development[edit]

This article has some very good information about the general ideas and general being of the works within the Hippocratic Corpus collection. It does not, however, discuss the amplitude of ideas that are conveyed within the works. Therefore, I believe it is a good idea to create a section with some of that relevant information in order to give readers a rough idea on different topics that can be found in these works.

I specifically plan to work on developing a section of Urology in the Hippocratic Corpus. I plan to use two articles for the bulk of this development. The two main sources for this development will be:

1. "Hippocrates and urology: The first surgical subspecialty". Urology. 50 (1): 157–159. 1997-07-01. doi:10.1016/S0090-4295(97)00114-3. ISSN 0090-4295.

2. Poulakou-Rebelakou, E.; Rempelakos, A.; Tsiamis, C.; Dimopoulos, C.; Poulakou-Rebelakou, E.; Rempelakos, A.; Tsiamis, C.; Dimopoulos, C. (2015-2). ""I will not cut, even for the stone": origins of urology in the hippocratic collection". International braz j urol. 41 (1): 26–29. doi:10.1590/S1677-5538.IBJU.2015.01.05. ISSN 1677-5538. PMC 4752053. PMID 25928507.

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Koan link[edit]

Why does the attribute "Koan" ("of the island of Kos") in the introduction refer to the Buddhist term "Koan"? They are only homonyms, nothing more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.77.234.11 (talk • contribs)

This should not be so... I shall fix it. -- Rmrfstar 22:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WPMED assessment[edit]

I'm tagging this article as importance=Mid, class=Start. Start class mostly because there are two reference sections, in different formats, and because there is little explanation of the context, significance, etc. of this topic. Mid importance because it is an historical interest but does not concern diseases or treatments. --Una Smith 04:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are two reference sections, in different formats. But they are not independent or redundant; they are complementary: the "bibliography" section contains the complete citations for works mentioned above it. This is quite standard formating I believe. It is also the same scheme that was used in the FA Hippocrates, on which I also worked. -- Rmrfstar 16:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hot poker[edit]

At least 2 very different medical techniques have been described as modern-day descendants of a procedure that Hippocrates performed with a hot poker. See Google: Hippocrates"hot+poker". Could someone add a mention of that procedure to this article? (I would, but all I know about it is the brief mentions I read in articles about those modern techniques). --68.0.124.33 (talk) 14:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are a *lot* of modern medical procedures that derive from practices described in the Hippocratic Corpus. Note that cauterization is already mentioned in Hippocrates. The other technique, prolotherapy, is not mentioned. If you can find a source and write a good sentence-long summary, I might support including it in that (more appropriate) article. -- Rmrfstar (talk) 12:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One of the results of that Google search, the article "The Patients of Jobe", seems to talk about a procedure Hippocrates performed with a hot poker that has something to do with an arm dislocated from its shoulder. The modern dislocated-arm repair techniques -- techniques that that article claims are descended from that procedure -- seem to be entirely unrelated to cauterization or prolotherapy. Do all 3 of these modern techniques derive from that same ancient procedure? Is that procedure something that we know Hippocrates himself performed, or is it merely a procedure mentioned in the Hippocratic Corpus? --68.0.124.33 (talk) 06:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The shoulder-poking is prolotherapy. It is possible, even likely, that the procedure was not performed by Hippocrates himself. However, the article Hippocrates largely treats the "Hippocratic School". -- Rmrfstar (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Importance of the Corpus to medicine[edit]

I was surprised the importance of this article was rated "Low". It is important for historical reasons, as the first Western systematic reference on medicine, & having decisively influenced Western medicine -- & still does as having established much of the current medical vocabulary. IIRC, it was used as an authoritative reference for centuries in the Greek, Roman, & Arabic worlds. One could even argue that this article deserves a higher rating due to its profound influence; considering that WPMED covers over 41,000 articles & less than 10,000 are ranked as "Mid" importance, there is no harm giving this the benefit of the doubt & rating its importance higher. -- llywrch (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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