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Decision to become an actress has inconsistent info[edit]

This page states that she decided to become an actress at the age of six when her sister got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That would be 1981 given Sara's birth year of 1975. However, her sister didn't get her star until 1985, when Sara was 10. I do not know which is correct but I am removing that sentence until the truth is verified Rs180216 (talk) 06:44, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Parentage[edit]

An IP editor has recently questioned referring to Gilbert's recent child as "their" child, in regard to Gilbert and Perry. Under California law, the spouse of a woman who gives birth is legally a parent (see this discussion.) So yes, it's their child. We don't limit the possessive on children to biological parents (see any discussion of an adopted child, for example.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@NatGertler: Thanks for commenting. This anonymous Washington DC-based editor has so far not participated in discussion about this subject that I'm aware of, resorting to snippy edit summaries like:

"People may have failed Biology, but two women cannot have a child" and

"Put two women on a desert island and see what is the population in 100 years" and

"Basic facts of biology are not 'controversial'. There is no political agenda here, just a lack of complete insanity."

Even without California's laws giving 'permission' to Wikipedians to describe the child as "theirs", the user is asserting (with no evidence or any attempt to discuss) a biological requirement for a parent or parents to refer to a kid as "theirs". This is absurd. Did John Astin consider Sean Astin to be "his" kid? If in the "sanctity" of a heterosexual marriage, the male has zero sperm motility, and the female opts to get pregnant through in vitro or through sex with another man, would Anon suggest that the infertile man could never call the kid "his"? How ridiculous it would be to hold unwavering with that opinion. And this edit in the article on Gilbert's wife Linda Perry, where the user adds the obnoxious commentary "The son was described as "theirs" so that Perry would avoid embarassment from perhaps not being the real father", is just vandalism. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:43, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Allison Adler[edit]

An editor has repeatedly tried to delete the listing of Adler as a partner (with dates for the period of partnership), saying "this section is for current relationships or former wives/husbands not ex girlfriends". I know of no policy for that, and the relationship with Adler is significant, as they had children together. As such, I've restored that content. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nat My two cents: from the {{Infobox person}} instructions: "If particularly relevant, or if the partner is notable; "partner" here means unmarried life partners (of any gender or sexual preference), not business partner." I would assume the plural "partners" to mean multiple partners if they are relevant or otherwise notable, so that would include ex-life partners. In this case, both qualifications are met, as Adler was presumably a relevant life partner since they established a family with children, as well as being independently notable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He didn't say anything about Gilbert and Adler being business partners (and Gilbert and Adler have never been business partners anyway.) The brave celery (talk) 03:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The brave celery: I'm unclear on how your comment about semantics adds constructively to this discussion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What I did was not important. Do not remove my comment (and that's not me being self-absorbed, that's Wikipedia policy anyway.) But what the quoted policy above said was that the Partners section is for romantically involved people of any sexual preference, not business partners. Whether the information concerning business partners was just left in there or whether the editor thought that Gilbert and Allison Adler were business partners is unclear to me, but they are not and never were partners in the "business partner" sense of the word. The brave celery (talk) 13:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The brave celery: Prove it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, no one appears to be intending to add business partner information. CBomb was just noting that inclusion of partners as a plural meant that they were including ex-life partners, because while one can have multiple business partners at the same time (much as Dewey has Cheatham and Howe), one is generally expected to have just one "life partner" at a time, and so if the term "partners" is not meant to include business partners, it must be meant to include a history of "life partners". (Of course, reality is a bit more complex, there are various subsets of people who have multiple "life partners" simultaneously.) So let's not start a fight over questions not relevant to existing or plans edits to this article. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comedian[edit]

An editor (presumably one, it's a series of IPs) has been repeatedly inserting the descriptor "comedian". This is unsourced, and is usually used to refer to stand-up artists, which is not something we have sourcing on for Gilbert. Even if they mean a comedic actor, this would be a subset of how we already describe her, not an "and". Multiple named users have reverted this change. Please do not re-add until you find consensus for such an addition on this talk page. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:51, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@NatGertler: Stand-ups are not the only type of comedian. Mel Brooks isn't really known as a stand-up, but he's absolutely a comedian. That said, unless Gilbert were well-established as a comedy writer or improviser or someone who generated comedy, I think I'd also avoid the "comedian" label, preferring the "comedic actor" or similar label, but it all boils down to what the sources want. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:56, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion at Talk:Sarah Gilbert (scientist)[edit]

A move discussion at Talk:Sarah Gilbert (scientist) has been started, with the intent of moving the article Sarah Gilbert (scientist) to Sarah Gilbert, which is at the moment a redirect to this article. Thank you. --Ted Edwards 22:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Sarah Gilbert (scientist) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]