Talk:Nalgene

This page was listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion in May, 2004. The result of that discussion was to keep the article. For an archive of the discussion, see /Delete.

In my reading of this article I perceived a language bias in the health effects section. Note that scientists "find" while the corporation "claims"; "find" being a stronger word than "claim" gave me a definite impression of bias. I am in no way affiliated with this product nor particularly concerned with the product. I only came to this article hoping to find an accepted pronunciation (hard "g" versus soft "g"), which the article didn't address. It was only upon reading it that I felt compelled to note my impression. 68.99.134.118 (talk) 09:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

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This page is just, well, odd.

Where are the other brands of water bottle manufacturers. This lot hardly invented the water sports bottle!

Was just searching around for data on these bottles, and found an article claiming a serious health hazard [1]. No time now for in-depth research but I wanted to put this out here. Tualha 13:28, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Follow-up: lots more links out there - google for polycarbonate water bottles bisphenol. Also a rebuttal to a Consumer Reports article, from the American Plastics Council. Um, ok. Real unbiased source, I'm sure. Tualha 13:38, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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I was concerned about whether we were talking about Lexan (from GE) or lexan (generic). LEXAN® Resin Branding Program answers that clearly by displaying the Nalgene logo. (While i am adding mention of the all-caps spelling to the Lexan article, using it on this talk page's article is legally unnecessary (we aren't using it to sell anything) and would thus violate our journalism-style std of common, not legalese or advertising, usage.)
--Jerzy (t) 20:12, 2005 May 4 (UTC)

Nalgene Breakability

How to break a nalgene bottle???

If you fill a nalgene bottle to the top with water and freeze it, will it break? Are you willing to test this on your 10 dollar bottle? Not me...let me know the outcome.

Thanks, Nicole

Well I tried this: I put water in a standard 1l bottle to the top and put it outside to freeze overnight (a cold canadian night). Next morning it had "stretched" but was still in one piece. So then, i poured boiling water hoping the tempreature rise would make it crack. Nope still in one piece. This is where i gave up, but my friend said that he broke his by filling it with a 1 litre bottle of coke and then shaking it very hard for about a minute and then smashing it againt a rock, the squeezing it under his armpit. I havent tried it myself nor did i see the broken bottle. User:MaxViper

So what? Myths about "unbreakable" things are not about the things, but about the concept "unbreakable". "Unbreakable in normal use" is useful information, within the limits of its imprecise terminology. "Unbreakable no matter what" is a perfectly precise term, and there is nothing it applies to. Any discussion of unbreakability is unencyclopedic.
--Jerzy•t 05:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Other brands of reusable water bottles

Do we want to have a section on other brands of water bottles. I created the pic to the right of a non Nalgene brand (Rubbermaid actually) reusable water bottle and I'm a little concerned with the naming specific to one brand, it might bring in a "Wikipedia supports Nalgene" claim from other brands. -- Tawker 07:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

On the other hand, this article is about Nalgene (the company). We also have articles on other companies, and those articles describe their products. (For example, Rubbermaid has an article discussing that brand.) While we sometimes discuss a company's major competitors in a given market, I don't know that I would encourage it as a general practice—it's a slippery slope where we start seeing every maufacturer of water bottles listed here....

An observation—the article at water bottle is currently a disambiguation page. If someone wanted to create an article about water bottles (development, history, technology, major brands, etc.) in general, that would be a good place for it. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 18:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I Agree, this is a page about Nalgene, the company, not Nalgene bottles. If this page were Nalgene bottle, that would be a different discussion. -- 12.116.162.162 (talk) 21:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Alternate uses?

User:Keflavich/Nalgene_in_Microwave I've used my nalgene as a pressure cooker, are there any other good 'alternative uses' people have tried? I think it would be nice to start an article on it if there are enough. --Keflavich 17:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Anon IP performing random hack-and-slash on article, and other issues

I've noticed the recent history shows one particular IP making a number of edits, including deleting the entire section on camping uses, that simply are not productive. Also, I'm concerned about two things -- first, that the article might read at least in part like a Nalge Nunc ad interspersed with poorly integrated critical commentary, and second, that the "health effects" issue really isn't appropriate for this particular article and ought to be relegated to the article on polycarbonate plastics. Just a few thoughts. Haikupoet 06:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The health effects issue should have a small summary with information relevant to Nalgene bottles with a "see also" to another article where the issue is dealt with in greater depth. --85.210.156.35 (talk) 09:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

corporation name vs. product name

This article began on 23 May 2004 describing Nalgene as a product brand name, and two days later was changed to describe Nalgene as the name of the manufacturer. There are subtle semantics involved, but now the article says, "Nalgene (sometimes referred to as Nalge Nunc International)". The semantics remain such that the statement may be literally true with a narrow reading; i.e., people do confuse product and corporate names, just as this article might be doing. However, that statement can also be interpreted to mean that Nalgene is the official name of the corporation and that Nalge Nunc International is a secondary or unofficial name of the corporation. As far as I can tell, Nalgene has always been a product brand name, but not a corporation name. If that's true, then the introduction should be clarified to say that Nalgene is a brand name for products from Nalge Nunc International. Does anyone have any reference to indicate whether or not Nalgene is or was a corporation name (as well as being a product name)? Thanks, --Rich Janis (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Rabbits?

"Prevents rabbits from breaking their own backs?" Is this a bad thing? Can someone explain this, if only here? Hrhadam (talk) 23:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Health Citations

The placement of first two citations in the section on health concerns are a bit confusing. The sentence is:

"In recent years, studies have suggested that polycarbonate plastics such as the ones Nalgene used may leach endocrine disruptors."

The first citations leads to a list of links to articles about endocrine disruptors in general, and the second leads to the same statement by the company cited later.. As far as I can tell, the first citation talks about the toxins, but does not discuss whether or not they are present in the Nalgene water bottles. I am going to change the placement/wording to make this a little clearer.

Also, though the company's press release does discuss claims that toxins are leached from the plastic, it would be nice to have a more primary source. mcs (talk) 19:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Correction: the second citation actually is another article on the dangers of the toxins, not the company's press release. My mistake. I'm going to clarify it's placement as well and add a citation-needed tag for the fact that the toxins actually can be leached from the plastics.mcs (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

cages??

I noticed this while reading "They also make polycarbonate cages and cage accessories for lab animals" however the pages it referenced explicitly says they dont manufacture them and only purchase them to supply labs "NNI also purchases selected products from other manufacturers, including plastic animal cages" so ive removed this because Ièm pretty sure its been put in by some animal rights person --Kr4ft (talk) 16:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm again removing the section the animal "rights" activist put in, which again has nothing to do with nalgene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.160.132 (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

NPOV, and improperly expressed thoughts

Section 2, "BPA concerns and resolution" doesn't belong in this article. The article is about Nalgene, not the epidemiology of a disease. An appropriate, single sentence might be something like, "... polycarbonates such as BPA have been associated with disease in epidemiological studies." Polycarbs are not unique to Nalgene. As it is the statement is as inappropriate as advertising and violates NPOV. The sentence, "Among the secreted chemicals, Bisphenol A (BPA) is a concern as it binds to estrogen receptors, thus altering gene expression.[4][5][6]" makes leaps and bounds across volumes of molecular biochemistry. Estrogen binds to estrogen receptors, too.

The term "secreted" implies that polycarbs are glands.

The section doesn't belong. Since it pertains to polycarbs it belongs in an article about polymers, plastics, public health or Superfund sites.

Kernel.package (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

WTF on oestrogen

I just read this page (Reply to 3rd comment). Is this true? Or just an unsubstaniated rumour? Any help in clearing this up would be greatly appreciated.--81.151.154.126 (talk) 14:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Different kinds of bottles - correction

The article says "Currently, Nalgene markets seven different kinds of bottles: Stainless, Grip n' Gulp, Multidrink, 32 oz. Wide Mouth, On-the-Fly, 32 oz. Glow, and Oasis." Yeah, no. That are only the first seven kind of bottles that are displayed on the website. Once you click "see them all" you see the rest of the products. I will correct the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.139.217.27 (talk) 12:45, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

What about the Laboratory equipment?

Nalgene, from the beginning, has been one of the major lines of storage/sample/centrifuge bottles, plastic beakers, columns, filters, etc, etc, for the lab environment. It is actually a very extensive line of such products. Yet someone coming to this page would just think that Nalgene is only a line of drinking bottles for outdoor sporting activities. That's a tail wagging the dog scenario. Unfortunately, the nalgene.com webpage reinforces the idea that the only products are drinking bottles. The manufacturer of Nalgene products, Nalge Nunc corp, is now owned by Thermo Fisher Scientific(Previously just Thermo Scientific), so you have to go to their webpage to see the lab products. It's at: http://www.thermoscientific.com/en/about-us/general-landing-page/nalgene-labware.html. This information is addressed in one sentence at the very top of the article, but then apparently forgotten for the remainder of the article.Gcronau (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

@Gcronau: Please see WP:SOFIXIT for what you should do. Don't worry if you make a mistake. Someone will fix it for you, or perhaps undo it. Thanks! —EncMstr (talk) 08:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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UVPE?

I have a translucent white Nalgene-brand bottle that has a recycling symbol with 2 inside the triangle and "UVPE" below it. I can find no information as to what "UVPE" is. It looks and feels like HDPE. 2600:1700:D0A0:21B0:4C1E:A5F8:2E51:1E15 (talk) 19:12, 28 May 2022 (UTC)