Talk:Thursday October Christian I

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International Dateline[edit]

Perhaps I am confused, but if the islanders crossed the International Dateline going East, the day of the week would fall back. Thus, if they thought it was Thursday, and had failed to take the IDL into account, shouldn't his name have been Wednesday?John Paul Parks (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Technically it would be more accurate to refer to changing from Eastern Meridianial Time (east of Greenwich) Western Meridianial Time (west of Greenwich), as the term International Date Line did not come into effect until after 1884. A Vanity Fair article on the Pitcairn Island sex trials in December 2007 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/pitcairn200801 does not give any sources but says that originally Thursday October Christian was named Friday October Christian, and that he changed his name (and that of his son Friday October Christian II?) after 1814 after the date error was corrected following the visit of HMS Tagus, by which time Thursday I would have been 24 years old.

02:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)~ Noel Ellis

old comments[edit]

This article was listed on votes for deletion; see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Thursday October Christian. Peter O. (Talk, automation script) 06:45, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

I thought nobody knew the specifics of what happened to Fletcher Christian...? Do you have a reference for this? --Gary D 09:06, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I believe that the article's author has read a piece of fiction about the mutiny on Bounty, and wrote on Wikipedia what he found there. I have removed most of the speculation. To answer your question: Fletcher Christian was most likely murdered on the Pitcairn island. The claims that he returned to England are unproven rumors at best. (Anyway, why would he return to England if he could only expect execution there?) -- Mike Rosoft 20:08, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- A further question is, how would Fletcher Christian get back to England, if the Bounty had been destroyed?John Paul Parks (talk) 23:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- While it is unlikely that Fletcher Christian ever left the island, abandoning his wife and children, the fate of the Bounty's launch is unknown. Also he has no known grave on Pitcairn.

02:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC) Noel Ellis

Correct image?[edit]

The image in this article is nice, but is it accurate? This page shows a different image which looks more like a sketch to me, vs. the other which seems to be an engraving of the sketch, and seems to have "cleaned up" the subject. Compare for example the curly hair along the cheek vs. what appears to be sideburns - I'm not convinced that he'd have been shaving at all. GreenReaper (talk) 01:35, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Conception location of Thursday October Christian?[edit]

The article gives Thursday's date of birth as 14 October 1790. Per Naegele's rule, this would put the date of conception on or around 21 January 1790. The article states Thursday was conceived on Tahiti, but Christian left Tahiti on 22 September 1789. Pitcairn was rediscovered by Christian on 15 January 1790, which would be consistent with Thursday's being conceived on Pitcairn, not Tahiti.

Should this part of the article be updated or removed? 136.2.1.164 (talk) 16:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]