Talk:Roquepertuse
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The third sentence regarding living places is a little unclear. Did the center not have inhabitants? Or did it not have suitable accomodation for its inhabitants?
The article says there is a depiction of the Buddha, which I think might be vandalism in reference to the picture at right. The caption says that it's a warrior. We need verification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.147.154.21 (talk) 21:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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Roquepertuse has never had any regular inhabitants, being occupied by priests only. The sanctuary did belong to the Celtic tribe living near Entremont, a capital city in those days. Entremont however has been destroyed in the same year of Roquepertuses destruction. The Celtic tribe was not allowed to rebuild the sanctuary and the city. The Romans however founded a new (Roman) city near Entremont (->>Aix-en-Provence).
Not a direct translation from French[edit]
therefore it can probably be expanded somewhat from there, although I am not up for much translation right this second. As an additional search term though, apparently these people were "sallien" or "salyan". There are some more images; I'll bring those over to this page for now. Elinruby (talk) 00:31, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Definition from Salyes; "The Salyes or Salluvii (Greek: Σάλυες) were an ancient Celto-Ligurian people dwelling between the Durance river and the Greek colony of Massalia during the Iron Age. Although earlier writers called them 'Ligurian'" Elinruby (talk) 03:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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just did a somewhat extensive copy edit, all of which is of course discussable. The two items I can think of which might be debatable are 1) the article said the column "had" cavities, but based on the photo they still do, so I changed that to "have" 2) the references to "Buddha-like position" are distracting imho. French says "seated in tailor positiones", which I don't think they conveys much in English, so I made it "crossed-legged". Turns out the French article only has two references; I am bringing the second one over now. I will take a look at the Catalan, which is possibly the version this was.translated from. Elinruby (talk) 19:18, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Henry or Henri: Sources have it both ways. French Wikipedia says Henry, although of course this is odd for someone born in Marseille. Am inclined to believe French Wikipedia but this should be checked, maybe against how he himself signed his articles? It's also linked twice but I am leaving this for now pending research on the name. Re the cross-legged position, apparently the Celts had a god (Cernunnos) often portrayed that way but the article I was just reading pointed out that the Roquepertuse figures are not antlered and this god was. I don't think that's useful is it? Unless there is a huge controversy about this of course, which should probably be mentioned as notable. Out of this for now. Elinruby (talk) 20:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Translation is from Catalan, and we already have the sources that are there. Elinruby (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- German version of this article has some context in terms of Roman history that is however uncited, so I did not import it. They seem to think that the place was destroyed.in a punitive raid for attacks on Massalia. Interesting if it can be verified. Next time I come over here I will take another shot at the journals. And I'll add that article about how the statues do not depict the horned god to the talk page, because someone add added an external link about him. Elinruby (talk) 12:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Translation is from Catalan, and we already have the sources that are there. Elinruby (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Henry or Henri: Sources have it both ways. French Wikipedia says Henry, although of course this is odd for someone born in Marseille. Am inclined to believe French Wikipedia but this should be checked, maybe against how he himself signed his articles? It's also linked twice but I am leaving this for now pending research on the name. Re the cross-legged position, apparently the Celts had a god (Cernunnos) often portrayed that way but the article I was just reading pointed out that the Roquepertuse figures are not antlered and this god was. I don't think that's useful is it? Unless there is a huge controversy about this of course, which should probably be mentioned as notable. Out of this for now. Elinruby (talk) 20:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)