Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein
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The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 22:22, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)
Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein[edit]
22 google hits for Shaun+BRM+Goldstein, none of which are relevant. WP seems to be under some kind of spam attack from people affiliated with the American Nihilist Underground Society; see the contributions of User:129.110.240.1, user:Derision, User:Adroyt, and who knows what else. -leigh (φθόγγος) 05:57, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC) Follow-up: It's not a question of notability, but of sheer accuracy: I don't think any of the statements in this article are true, and none of its ardent supporters have provided any proof to support them. -leigh (φθόγγος) 22:11, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Shaun Goldstein does not publish material under his real name, but under a pseudonym. {User:Iconoclast}
- What, pray, is this pseudonym? -leigh (φθόγγος) 09:53, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep The relationship between Goldstein and Halford has been well established and existent in the WP definition for some time. Goldstein's background needed to be elaborated on. {User:Adroyt}
- Thank you for the input, gentlemen. Could you please provide a link to a source? As User:Adtroyt has so kindly pointed out, the Rob Halford article has contained for some time the sentence "It is not known if he has broken up with long-term boyfriend Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein" (with no punctuation). Previously, this sentence had also read "It is not known if he has had anal sex with shock rocker Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein," "It is not known if he has had anal sex with angst-ridden pollock Korey 'XThe UnknownX' Pollockski," and "It is not known if he has broken up with long-term boyfriend Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein who was said to be cheating on Halford with a one testicled pollack for some time." Can you persuade me that the current statement is any less nonsensical than the others? Oh, and thanks for the unsolicited AIM messages. Really. Now I'm much more likely to take ANUS seriously. -leigh (φθόγγος) 08:42, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Like many pages, one sentence is often hijacked between two people for a laugh. Have you not heard of the time the host on screensavers defaced wikipedia to show how easy it is to spread false content? Defacement is nothing new, and the wiki crowd has taken it upon themselves to correct that defaced sentence. The proof of Shaun Goldstein is located at www.sodomy.org, as noted in Shaun's wikipage. Our savior Jesus Christ would have us forgive such people who deface pages, as he said to "forgive your enemy." User:Iconoclast
- Thank you for the input, gentlemen. Could you please provide a link to a source? As User:Adtroyt has so kindly pointed out, the Rob Halford article has contained for some time the sentence "It is not known if he has broken up with long-term boyfriend Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein" (with no punctuation). Previously, this sentence had also read "It is not known if he has had anal sex with shock rocker Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein," "It is not known if he has had anal sex with angst-ridden pollock Korey 'XThe UnknownX' Pollockski," and "It is not known if he has broken up with long-term boyfriend Shaun 'BRM' Goldstein who was said to be cheating on Halford with a one testicled pollack for some time." Can you persuade me that the current statement is any less nonsensical than the others? Oh, and thanks for the unsolicited AIM messages. Really. Now I'm much more likely to take ANUS seriously. -leigh (φθόγγος) 08:42, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. After further investigation into the group Leigh described, vote has been changed. It appears the rob Haldford article is in need of vandalism watch. Khanartist 08:38, 2005 Jan 16 (UTC)
- Delete, could probably be speedied as a hoax, but I'll let someone else do it. Tuf-Kat 08:50, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. I'm sorry, but how does this have anything to do with some group? If it is fact, it should stay. 194.143.75.179 18:59, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- This article is connected to a group which has been incredibly disruptive in the last day or so (see here), which throws its veracity into serious question. Furthermore, it doesn't help the process of trying to find out whether it is fact when you delete my comments above asking for sources. Please don't do that again. -leigh (φθόγγος) 19:16, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. —Korath (Talk) 19:42, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Even if all of the information in the article is true, there is nothing to establish notability. Delete. RickK 23:01, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable, possible hoax. Megan1967 02:06, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, seems to be a bad joke. Jonathunder 04:04, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC)
- Delete --EnSamulili 12:35, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete very likely hoax and/or libel, and even on the odd chance that it's 100% true, that still does not make this individual noteworthy enough for an article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:20, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete with extreme prejudice. Very likely a hoax and/or libel, and not a clever one, either. Edeans 22:17, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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