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Section size for Borderline personality disorder (62 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	24,102	24,102
Signs and symptoms	3,572	30,530
Mood and affect	8,954	8,954
Interpersonal relationships	5,583	5,583
Behavior	1,136	1,136
Self-harm and suicide	3,812	3,812
Sense of self and self-concept	1,208	1,208
Dissociation and cognitive challenges	1,538	1,538
Psychotic symptoms	3,257	3,257
Disability and employment	1,470	1,470
Causes	1,815	23,584
Genetics and heritability	5,464	5,464
Psychosocial factors	28	6,180
Adverse childhood experiences	4,165	4,165
Invalidating environment	1,987	1,987
Brain and neurobiologic factors	1,346	4,685
Neurological patterns	3,339	3,339
Mediating and moderating factors	164	5,440
Executive function and social rejection sensitivity	1,796	1,796
Family environment	896	896
Self-complexity	1,306	1,306
Thought suppression	1,278	1,278
Diagnosis	3,165	40,572
DSM-5 diagnostic criteria	1,638	1,638
International Classification of Disease (ICD) diagnostic criteria	73	4,390
ICD-11 diagnostic criteria	2,872	2,872
ICD-10 diagnostic criteria	1,445	1,445
Millon's subtypes	1,809	1,809
Misdiagnosis	2,965	2,965
Adolescence and prodrome	10,190	10,190
Differential diagnosis and comorbidity	2,280	16,415
Comorbid Axis I disorders	4,761	4,761
Mood disorders	5,770	5,770
Premenstrual dysphoric disorder	1,411	1,411
Comorbid Axis II disorders	2,193	2,193
Management	1,323	22,566
Psychotherapy	9,748	9,748
Medications	6,078	6,078
Health care services	5,417	5,417
Prognosis	4,553	4,553
Epidemiology	3,789	3,789
History	6,774	8,648
Etymology	1,874	1,874
Controversies	19	21,533
Credibility and validity of testimony	1,422	2,670
Dissociation	996	996
Lying as a feature	252	252
Gender	2,951	2,951
Manipulative behavior	2,983	2,983
Stigma	2,222	8,886
Physical violence	1,992	1,992
Mental health care providers	4,672	4,672
Terminology	4,024	4,024
Society and culture	25	11,830
Literature	1,888	1,888
Film	5,796	5,796
Television	2,788	2,788
Awareness	1,333	1,333
See also	124	124
Citations	29	29
General bibliography	2,844	2,844
External links	1,661	1,661
Total	196,365	196,365

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Typo[edit]

In the manipulation section:

"In one research study, 88% of therapists reported that they have experinced manipualtion attempts from patient(s)." 144.118.77.123 (talk) 19:24, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks! Dawnseeker2000 21:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

paragraph duplication[edit]

The two paragraphs before the symptoms title contain the same information with different phrasings. 2A02:14F:17C:B4EE:0:0:1B0B:339B (talk) 01:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching that, fixed. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 02:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article is too big[edit]

At almost 10,000 words this article should definitely be trimmed, per WP:TOOBIG. I suggest we create articles for some sections, such as Causes of borderline personality disorder (redirect to the "Causes" section), diagnosis, signs and symptoms; like we already do for management and misdiagnosis. The Blue Rider 16:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I’ve done copyediting to most of the current content. Snipping out excess or twice-repeated content. However, for the most part it was just fact checking, updating some facts that play an important role, and letting it all flow nicely. I’m sitting with the following facts after my huge copyedit:

Causes should be grouped into three: genetic, neurobiologic, psychosocial. And then we expand if so on the new research into that.
In diagnosis, we put the criteria into prose, possibly removing the subtypes or prosing the subtypes by Millon as I haven’t seen their substantiveness in all the medical literature I’ve read there isn’t much mention of them?
Adolescence should move more forward or to a separate section termed prodrome where like schizophrenia there may be a prodrome or adolescence behaviour pre-disease pattern prior to developing the disease, as this is so “pervasive” unlike a mood disorder there is a prodrome of sorts I’ve picked up on although that is original research.
The differential diagnosis section is giving me the “ick”. It’s very overwhelming as summarised BPD can occur comorbid with a lot of other conditions, and not so typically talked about vice versa, if you get what I mean. And it speaks of the statistics in the old terms of Axis I and II instead of Sections I and II and I think we should speak of them in comorbid other personality d/o and comorbid other mental d/o (like mood d/o, trauma d/o etc.)
Management I need to tackle the main article, then we can filter what needs to be there knit pick onto the BPD article, maybe by {transclusion}? -- I’ve never done that before so you’re suggestions would be appreciated.
Epi I touched a little with the latest stats
Prognosis and History and Controversies I haven’t touched at all!!

What do you think? waddie96 ★ (talk) 15:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all the points, I will start by putting the criteria into prose. The Blue Rider

17:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The Blue Rider I don't think there's anything wrong with it being long it provides the most information 45.19.219.33 (talk) 19:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good day, and welcome to Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Welcome and Wikipedia:Article size. waddie96 ★ (talk) 20:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why does Edvard Munch get to have this disorder posthumously awarded to him?[edit]

Isn't it a basic principle in psychiatry that you have to meet someone in person before you can tell what mental illnesses he has? But some Danish dude writes an article and now it's a "sourced fact". Well good on you, Danish dude, I hope no one writes an article calling you a manic depressive, for example, because that would obviously become a fact. 212.3.197.113 (talk) 21:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed - this is a tiresome hobby of medics, which journals are too ready to publish, often in their Xmas issues. Johnbod (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]