Talk:Nome, Alaska

Gold on the beaches of Nome

Is there really gold on the beaches of Nome? --Tbbooher 02:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there was gold on the beaches of Nome. See:

Volume 2 / Number 1 / Spring 1987 SOLD OUT Clark C. Spence, "The Ernst-Alaska Dredging Company: Small Dredge Technology on the Nome Beaches, 1910-1920" in the Alaska Historical Society's Alaska History magazine.

Michael Garrett Blakeslee mgblakes@comcast.net

Does the Iditarod in fact commemorate the serum run?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iditarod_%28race%29#Criticism_from_animal_rights_groups says "Animal protection activists say that the Iditarod is not a commemoration of the 1925 serum delivery. The race was originally called the Iditarod Trail Seppala Memorial Race in honor of Leonhard Seppala. According to statements made by Iditarod co-founder Dorothy Page, the media perpetuated the false notion that the race was established to honor the drivers and dogs who carried the serum."

It seems to me that some clarification is needed, in both articles, about whether or not the Iditarod really does commemorate the serum run.

Nat 23:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

It does not - it just follows the historic iditarod historic trail. The serum run started from Nenana, not Anchorage / Willow. 146.63.71.44 (talk) 21:38, 15 September 2016 (UTC)Nomeite

Statue[s?] of Balto

Contradiction:

Para. 2 says "A statue of Balto by F.G. Roth stands near the zoo in Central Park, New York City, as does one in downtown Anchorage, Alaska".

The caption of the sled-dog photo in the History section says "Statue in downtown Anchorage of an anonymous sled dog, often mistaken as Balto, the lead sled dog during the last part of the Iditarod serum run."

Which is it?

While we are here, the wording of the Para 2 quote is unclear: it can be read a saying that both statues are by F.G. Roth. Are they?

Nat 23:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Nome serum race

Why no mention of the Race against Death? [1][2] Tomer^talk 11:02, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The Fourth Kind

this is all MY OWN OPINION i have a feelin that this will get tampered with due to the new Milla Jovovich movie the fourth kind, which pretends to be 'based on true events' revolving around alien abductions from Nome, throwing out facts like "More people disappear from Nome every year than any other city" and other such nonsense. The whole thing is structured w/ a 'blair witch effect', even with Jovovich introducing the trailer by saying "I'm portraying a real person, yadda yadda". Kind of ridiculous, especially since there is apparently no mention anywhere on the internet of anything alien related to Nome, Alaska. Altough there is a much higher rate of disaperances in Nome than anywhere else in the world; and in several cases the last places the people were seen has a high amount of radiation.Then again I have no proof that the movie's "real footage" is fake.

Just something to look out for.

If anyone lands here looking for info about Nome and Aliens: the movie is complete fiction and the 'real footage' they show in the trailer is also complete fiction. --Brad R. (talk) 15:12, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

It's probably also worth noting that the overhead shot they show of "Nome" shows a town in a hilly, wooded valley, which is about as far from Nome as you can get. I guess the notion of aliens in Norton Sound wasn't scary enough ;)
∴Walkeraj —Preceding undated comment added 02:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC).

Here's an article on the movie which seems to show it as bunk http://community.adn.com/adn/node/143292 --65.46.49.110 (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

My Opinion Actually based on MY opinion their have been some missing people in Alaska like Paranormal Activity explain why you wouldn't want to use a witch (Weegee) board. My opinions are that when a witch board has a symbolic sign of the stars,that at 11:34 or 3:15 things would react. Since 11:34 is normally spelled "Hell" backwards which indicates the gates of hell to appear and at 3:15 the gate opens and allows spirits to arrive. BUT ITS JUST FACTS OF MY OWN OPINION —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.112.227 (talk) 17:41, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

   all the footege in the movie is completely true, i was in nome during the production in 2009.Why else would the FBI be there so much if there wasn't any thing the goverment would'nt care. they would not have  shown up theres if there wasnothing wrong, obviuusly the goverment has alo to do and that does't include any FAKE

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This is from my opinion that i know that aliens are not real at all there isnt any proof but i know something,someone ,some creature what is doing that now we all know that nome is based on a true story even i think its real its not like any scary movie that i have seen before,some people think its a joke a fake but how do you know?? What im saying is that that lady in the video who said that her child Ashley was taken away by something & that something is not an alien its a clearly explanation. Listen, i dont know what religion to whom ever is reading this but if youy look just look in the muslim story of what happened between god & one of his angels there was an angel called "Iblis". And this is true whats happening to Nome is also happening to the bermuna triangle some people say that in the bermuna triangle is a cursed place & it is true because it is the throne of "Iblis" thats why including Nome. So,"Iblis" always wanted to be you know so i think he took that lady's daughter & he always hated humans, always. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.59.241.247 (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry but it's NOT real. The actress in the "real footage" scenes is Charlotte Milchard. She's been in two other movies. Anyway just check out The Fourth Kind Wikipedia article. 22:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.86.236.18 (talk)

The Fourth Kind movie is a bunch of CROCK, I was born and raised in Nome, nothing in that movie is true.12.117.201.46 (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Dogs

Considering the introduction part of a Wikipedia page about a town makes clear indications to the names of two dogs which once lived there, the town must really have nothing of interest to give to the world. Or so it seems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.50.247 (talk) 14:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Bogosity check

The federal judge for the area ruled the original claims valid, but some of the claim jumpers agreed to share their invalid claims with influential Washington politicians. Alexander McKenzie, a Republican party higher-up from North Dakota, took an interest in the gold rush and secured the appointment of Arthur Noyes as the federal district judge for the Nome region for the purpose of taking control of gold placer mines in Nome.

Ambiguous to the point of being meaningless. Originally, "the federal judge for the area" was the one judge assigned to the entire District of Alaska, until Congress passed new civil legislation for Alaska in 1900. The Second Division court created by this legislation, which covered northwestern Alaska, was originally based in St. Michael before it was quickly moved to Nome during the height of the Gold Rush. Noyes was the first person appointed to this judgeship. Some more background could be useful here, especially since the article on McKenzie doesn't address the matter in sufficient enough detail, either. There is the suggestion that Noyes, who was a candidate for a judgeship in Minneapolis prior to getting this judicial appointment, and McKenzie combined forces for the express purpose of accomplishing this, but once again, that could be made clearer.

Wyatt Earp, of Tombstone, Arizona fame, stayed in Nome for a short period, but little is known of his activities there.

Hmmm. As I enter "wyatt earp" one letter at a time into Google, "wyatt earp in alaska" ranks pretty high on the list of suggestions. I dunno whether or not that's due to the host computer recognizing that I'm in Alaska. Any number of sources mention that Earp lived in Nome (mostly during the summer) from 1897 to 1901, and that he and Charles E. Hoxie owned and operated the Dexter Saloon. There are other sources out there which go into greater detail.

Also, no mention that Tex Rickard lived in Nome during the same time period. Rickard came to Alaska to visit Juneau ca. 1894, soon afterward abandoning his life in Texas to become a gold rush traveler. He served on Nome's first city council, but left Alaska not long after that.

A 500-mile (800 km) road project (Manley Hot Springs–Nome) is being discussed in Alaska.

"Is being discussed" is ambiguous and misleading. Entering "road to nome" into Google and writing statements on numerous Wikipedia articles based solely upon the contents of the first result returned doesn't do the issue justice. I entered "road to nome" into a newspaper search engine hosted by the Alaska State Library and it returns stories going as far back as 1957. I mention this because the companion statement on Alaska Route 2 is worded, using the same selective source, to give the impression that the idea of a road to Nome is recent or brand new, and that Sarah Palin and Sean Parnell are somehow responsible for the idea. Obviously, if the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner was writing a story about it in the summer of 1957, years before either Palin or Parnell were born, it's bullshit. Writing untrue or misleading statements based upon a lack of willingness WRT discernment of multiple available sources is also bullshit.RadioKAOS (talk) 18:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Dirtville

Apparently according to the miner's camp (where they tent up) is called "Dirtville", on the outskirts of Nome. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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The "In popular culture" section (masquerading as the "Media" section) and edit warring

I stepped in here when I saw another WP:LAME candidate brewing. As a result, JustBerry left a note on my talk page in response to my reversion, invoking WP:V. I had already pointed out in my edit summary that the entire section is unreferenced. JustBerry didn't exactly score any points by continuing to dwell on the lack of references to only one small part of it. I'd much rather disregard the WP:V argument and discuss the section as a whole. (There's the other can of worms: given how WP:V is often applied, is a "common reader" defined as someone who is incapable of using a specialized search engine or going to the library and picking up a book? That definition would actually apply to a lot of active Wikipedians, if you think about it.)

There are a number of editors out there with an obvious deep interest in how the gold rush era has been portrayed in popular culture. Unfortunately, much of the editing activity in that vein has resulted in imbalanced articles reflecting undue weight, this article being one such example. It's not just this section, either. Look at the history section, too. There are tons of sources out there concerning the real-life events surrounding Alexander McKenzie and Arthur Noyes. Instead of acknowledging any of that, we basically turn the paragraph discussing these events into a WP:COATRACK for Rex Beach and The Spoilers.

The so-called "Media" section, which is really an "In popular culture" section (popular culture sections are typically abhorred by certain editors, but it's really easy to slip one in by calling it something else, which shows how much attention people are really paying around here), is wholly unreferenced and continues to push the article down the path I describe in the previous paragraph. I wouldn't mind one bit if WP:TNT was used here. See North Pole, Alaska for an example of how rethinking an article works for the betterment of the encyclopedia. In its early years, the article was written as little more than a coatrack article for Santa Claus (I am not making this up, go look for yourself), and as a result attracted a lot of ridiculous editing activity. I rewrote the article so that it actually provided some information about the community. Lo and behold, it's been mostly stable ever since. The same can be achieved here. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 04:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Citation for third paragraph of introduction

The story behind the delivery of the serum sounds fascinating. Can we get a source for this story? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Secretkeeper12 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Suggestions for Education Section

I think it would be helpful to add to the "Education" section, under "Public Schools" that there is a Head Start school program currently in Nome, Alaska. The Kawerak Head Start program is designed to prepare younger children for school at a younger age than Kindergarten. Hltozier (talk) 06:55, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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Etymology

It says one theory of the name is that Jafet Lindeberg would have named it after a valley in Norway.

In the book Klondike, The Chicago Record's Book For Gold Seekers, printed in 1897, on pages 28-29, is a map over Alaska. There Cape Nome is clearly named. https://archive.org/stream/klondikechicagor00chic#page/28/mode/2up This book was printed one year before Jafet Lindeberg came to USA. So clearly he can not be the originator of the name.

So why is it even listed as a theory? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.10.167.204 (talk) 17:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)