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Gaddafi's date of birth cannot be reliably determined due to conflicting sources. A specific birth date should not be used without further consensus. See discussions:
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@Tbhotch Google said his birthday was June 7th so it was June 7th 1942 Rhydian27474 (talk) 02:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where in Google did you read that? Google is just a search engine. Catalk to me! 08:46, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Vylkeer
Hi, I was also wondering why the birth date was missing and I also found sources claiming June 7th to be the date. I don't know if these can be considered reliable:
NATO's substantial aid and assistance to the opposition forces contributed to Gaddafi's assassination, and this is a fact. By attacking Gaddafi's convoys, NATO contributed to his assassination by facilitating his capture by the rebels. Furthermore, this event is widely classified as an assassination[4][5][6]. If you are unwilling to read the article on the Killing of Muammar Gaddafi, then I suggest you refrain from consuming unnecessary time. Continue IP hopping, making unconstructive edits and edit warring, and you may find yourself reported to the vandalism noticeboard. Skitash (talk) 23:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Skitash In the very article you point to, "assassination" is pretty clearly not the conclusion of any set of certain actors. You should correct your edits on this point as they are currently non-neutral. Izno (talk) 00:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello everyone! I would like to propose that we change the current image in the infobox for a new one that I compiled. Since I feel like the current image is a bit too young for the infobox.
I vote for Option 1, His official portrait. 121.122.87.53 (talk) 04:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Status Quo reflects Gaddafi in his prime, although is not even being given as a numbered option here, as it should be. It is important to note that the copyright status of Option 1 is unclear in the United States, so it would not be advisable to use it. Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Option 2 due to it being the most common photo of ghaddafi. Lukt64 (talk) 01:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I vote for Option 1, Option 3, or Option 4. However, in my opinion (which I know isn't worth much), they all have some problems. I disagree with Midnightblueowl in that we should keep that, although I do agree with them that it should be a numbered option. My problem with that one is that it isn't great for specifically identifying Gaddafi. What I mean is that most of the left side of his face is hard to see, and his forehead is completely blocked. He does look a bit young, but I would say he aged decently, and that specifically doesn't seem like a huge issue. For pros, it appears to have the highest resolution of these choices, and I think you get a good sense of his overall frame, as his shoulders are partially visible. Option 1, is, in my opinion (again, not worth much), the best for identifying Gaddafi. It gets most of his face from a straight-on angle, the background and his outfit are simple, which allows a reader to focus on his face. Again, a decent sense of his frame. However, the resolution is a little lower on this one, and the contrast feels like it needs a bit of work. Also, the copyright status, as mentioned by Midnightblueowl above, is dubious here in the U.S.. Option 2 has a good resolution and again captures his frame well, but the angle is a bit odd, as is the face he's making. More of his face is visible here than our status quo, but only by so much. Additionally, his outfit might be a bit visually distracting from his face (although that could just be me). Option 3 also has a good resolution, and shows most of his face. The outfit is also distinct but not too distracting here, and the background is nice and simple. However, again the angle is a bit odd, as is his expression, and the split lighting likely isn't preferred. Option 4 I think ticks off most of the boxes, with a clear view of his face, the clothes aren't very elaborate, we get a good sense of his frame, and the resolution is decent. However, a close-up might be preferred, and although I don't have a problem with the background, someone else might. I feel option 5 is the weakest of all these, including our status quo. Most of his face is shown, and it is fairly simple, but I think too much of another person is visible in the background, his expression is again a bit odd, and the resolution isn't the best.
Hopefully my over-elaborate points made sense. Anyone else have any thoughts on any of the pros and cons I've raised? ThaddeusOrlando55 (talk) 03:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support current image. As per Midnightblueowl, the current image reflects Gaddafi in the period when his international influence was at its peak. Aside of color, the proposals do not offer meaningful improvements. Applodion (talk) 14:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support current image per the arguments above. Skitash (talk) 13:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am changing my position to Support current image. In my opinion, Option 1 is still best, as it is in color, he's about facing the camera, and it's not too old but not too recent. However, as its U.S. copyright status is uncertain, we can't use it. The current image's only real flaw is that parts of his face are covered, but enough is visible to get the gist, and the resolution is good, so we might as well keep it. ThaddeusOrlando55 (talk) 05:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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