Talk:Pope Lando

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Pope Lando (913-14).

A native of the Sabina, and the son of Taino, elected pope seemingly in July or August, 913; d. in February or March, 914, after a reign of a little over six months. Nothing more is known of him except that he was a worthy man, and granted a privilege to a church in his native Sabina.

Liber Pontificalis, II, 239; KERR, Italia Pontificia, II (Berlin, 1907), 73; MANN, Lives of the Popes in the Early Middle Ages, IV, 147 sqq. the new page here.

I rewrote the article to avoid copyright. Since apparently little is known of him, that was fairly easy! Graham Chapman

Where did the idea that Pope Lando was the last to use his given name as his papal name come from? Pope Marcellus II used his real name when he was elected in 1555 -- over 600 years after Pope Lando died. Unless someone comes up with backup for the idea that no popes after Lando used their given names as their papal names, I will delete that from Pope Lando's article. --Joshua, 08 May 2005, 23:34 (UTC).

Or Landus?[edit]

I bought a book from one of the Basilicas in Rome that calls this Pope Landus. Is this a mistake, or is it a variant of his name (Latinised rather than Italian)? Should this be mentioned? At least a redirect would be useful as I got no results when I initially searched for 'Landus'.--217.206.93.190 (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently both Lando and Landus were used. "Lando" was declined in the third declension (Landonis, Landoni, etc), but it would also be the dative/ablative of "Landus", so that's kind of odd. Here is a page from Liutprand of Cremona that has both forms. Adam Bishop (talk) 12:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! I have added it.--217.206.93.190 (talk) 14:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lando was a very common Lombard name. I always assumed he was a Lombard from south-central Italy. In this case, Lando would be the native "nominative" form, declined as if Latin, and Landus would be a further Latinisation, no? Srnec (talk) 03:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, there are lots of ultimately Germanic names that were Latinized in the first, second, and (when they end in -o) third declension. Guido is another that also sometimes appeared as "Guidus". Adam Bishop (talk) 13:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lando calrissian[edit]

If you read the history of this article, you will see about half the edits have been about Lando in popular culture, or references to Lando Calrissian in some sort or another. See here. Simply linking to Lando Calrissian as a see also link is a much happier compromise.μηδείς (talk) 00:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

papal name confusion[edit]

I came away from this brief article VERY confused about the naming of the pope; it says: "He did not change his name on his accession." ... "He was the last pope to use a papal name which had not been previously used until Pope John Paul I did so in 1978." But he didn't change his name, so what is this talking about? I think this has become gibberized due to previous edits. I'm not sure what it's trying to say. Heimburg (talk) 23:29, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are saying he used his given name, 'Lando,' and was the last pope to not share a name with another pope. Bkatcher (talk) 02:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's unencyclopedic trivia that is meaningless in this article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:35, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's unencyclopedic. When the new pope chose the name Francis, several news outlets devoted a lot of time to the fact that he was the first Francis. Bkatcher (talk) 03:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is also confusion with article Pope Francis This is the first time that a pope has been named "Francis" and the first time since Pope Lando's 913–914 reign that a serving pope held a name unused by a predecessor. Pope John Paul I, elected in 1978, took a new combination of already used names, in honour of his two immediate predecessors, John XXIII and Paul VI. --Francisco Valverde (talk) 12:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In 2013, upon the election of Pope Francis, the first paragraph was edited to state that Pope Lando "...was the last pope to use a papal name (in his case, his birth name) that had not been used previously until the election of Pope Francis in 2013." The sentence previously cited John Paul I in 1978 as having an original papal name. Subsequent edits included a reference to John Paul's use of two previously used (albeit separately) papal names. As this is a discussion of a "papal name", the citation of John Paul would be correct in my opinion; there was no previous pope who used the papal name "John Paul" even though, as noted, there were previous popes who separately used the papal names John and Paul. The papal name is a unit. Accordingly, in my opinion, this should be reverted to cite John Paul as the next to use an original papal name. However, as there apparently was considerable ambivalence on this point in 2013, it seems prudent to put it up for discussion first to get an understanding of the opposing viewpoint. Talanpoe (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Srnec: Perhaps this article could be split neatly into sections like Life and Pontificate. Should that be done?--~Sıgehelmus♗_(Tøk) 22:24, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article is currently three paragraphs long. Given what we know about Lando, it is unlikely to get much longer. I don't see how any "splitting up" is necessary. Srnec (talk) 22:29, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I personally feel that in this case the article should have a short lede with a summary of what we do know about his pontificate, and then a general "Life" section with everything else. "Lando was...his term was known for X" something like that. I understand if it should be left as is, but it just seems a little clunky to me even considering length.-22:49, 16 December 2018 (UTC)