Talk:Highgate Cemetery

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Page suggestions[edit]

Would it be good to include the grave numbers( if known) of the famous people listed to aid visitors to locate them? Also I think it is important to make it clear that the cemetary is divided into two sites, East and West. at the moment the article just seems to indicate it is one plot, but there is a road which separates them and there are different rules and access restrictions for each side. Bvrly (talk) 13:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marx Bombing Again[edit]

Sorry to come back to this point, but phrasing it "whose tomb's most recent bombing is still recalled by some Highgate residents" seems to miss the point. Surely the thing of interest about the cemetry and the Marx grave is not that some residents remember the bombing, but that it was bombed at all. I suggest re-prasing it along the lines of "who's tomb has been bombed in living memory", or mentioning it in the main body of the article, and not in its current position.--Rob2000 22:39, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reworded the first couple of paras. I always thought they read a little oddly and now I find they are pretty much the same as material at http://www.tales.ndirect.co.uk/SEXTON_TALE.HTML (unless of course they nicked it from here, you never know!). I can't contact the person who put it here in the first place as it was just an IP address, but maybe they know more about (or own!) the copyright and can put me right on it. But as a precautionary measure I thought it better to redo it, at least until more is known. Nevilley 08:22 Mar 5, 2003 (UTC)

Last Marx bombing[edit]

Do we know when, even roughly, Marx was last blown up? The reason I ask is that removing "middle-aged" from the statement about residents who remember it has removed from the article any indication of when it was, and the way it now reads, it could have been last week. I agree that the wording was maybe not that elegant but it seems a shame to have lost this and the neatest solution would simply be to add the date so the "middle-aged" bit becomes irrelevant. I know it must have been during the 60s or 70s (hence my original wording) but I can't yet get it any closer than this. --Nevilley 08:04, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It was me that removed the statement as (a) I've lived about 250 yards away from 'him' for eighteen years, and (b) many people count my chronological age as distinctly 'middle-aged' (even though I don't!) and I don't recall it. I'm about to go and drive some of the local OAP's on their weekly shopping trip so I'll ask if any of them remember. One of them is 98 so that should help! --VampWillow 08:29, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I am confused. Are you disputing the age you need to be, or whether it happened at all? My wife was brought up in the same neck of the woods as you, and remembers it, as do others around there, so there is not really anything to dispute in whether or not it actually happened: I was seeking to clarify the date, not whether it happened. --Nevilley 08:59, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

No, no; I know it happened, just the age someone would need to be. I've just asked my busload and they put it as 50s or early 60s ... --VampWillow 09:28, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cool - someone - no names no packdrill - born in 1957 (date chosen entirely at random, yeah right!) would be 47 this year - slight reword then??? :) --Nevilley 09:39, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, as I'm not 47 (::grins::) yes, I'd agree. I think 'some' works in this context as clearly means older without specifying an absolute but what would be best is if we can trace an actual date. --VampWillow 09:46, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I can't decide now if it matters. I will leave it for a while and see what emerges. I've had no luck in a quick attempt to trace the date and am starting to question its importance! :) --Nevilley 09:51, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

This is interesting ... I just used Teoma to do a search to see if I could find the date. Terms used were "highgate cemetery" "karl marx" bombing. All the results on the first page are MIRRORS of this page but the page itself isn't listed. Some of the domains do not look FNUFDL either but have to go offline a bit now for next shop trip. --VampWillow 09:56, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

This is an interesting discussion but contains very little facts. When I visited the cemetery in 2010 it was explained to me that the monument to Karl Marx was built close to where his original grave was but not on the spot. It was also explained to me that the attempted bombing was of the monument and not the actual grave.83.160.198.125 (talk) 18:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Highgate Vampire[edit]

Additionally, the Highgate Cemetery is well known for its occult past, being the site of the controversial Highgate Vampire (as written by Bishop Sean Manchester.)

This paragraph requires expansion, copyediting and fact checking. One can't simply drop this into the article without identifying "the controversial Highgate Vampire" or "Bishop Sean Manchester", neither of which currently has a Wikipedia entry. I also question whether Highgate actually has an "occult past" other than the vampire legend. Can someone expand upon this, or should the paragraph be deleted? Canonblack 22:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I created a 'Highgate Vampire' entry in May 2006, which has now become the site of ongoing argument from Sean Manchester's associate Dennis Crawford, and has had to be given 'semi-protected' status. The moderators of Wikipedia may wish to look at the discussion there and modify the assertion currently printed at the end of the Highgate Cemetery section about SM's exorcism. (Jacqueline Simpson, July 2006)

Alexander Litvinenko[edit]

It is stated that Alexander Litvinenko is buried in the West Cemetery. I seem to remember that he is buried in the East Cemetery.83.160.198.125 (talk) 18:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When I visited Highgate in 2007 the grave was in the East Cemetery, near the monument to Karl Marx, I seem to remember that it was more a space than a grave, but that may have been due to the fact that he was only recently buried. It is not improbable (but highly unlikely) that the grave was moved. I will visit the cemetery again in 2018 and will have a look. The confusion may come from a photograph of the headstone which was tagged: The grave of Alexander Litvinyenko in the West End of Highgate Cemetery, London Borough of Islington. I was not aware that Highgate Cemetery had a West End. JHvW 20:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since my last remark I have spoken to one of the "friends". He could not confirm that the grave had been in the Eastern Cemetery but it is definitely in the Western Cemetery now. When I saw the grave it was no more than a few planks surrounding a bed of gravel. It is now a "proper" grave with a headstone. I have been informed that he is buried 12 feet deep in a lead lined coffin as there are worries about radiation. JHvW 13:18, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CfD Proposal to delete Burial by place category[edit]

It has been proposed here to delete the category that links people to their place of burial. Note that the proposer is recommending the removal of the whole tree of categories, not just the the top level categories listed. Ephebi Ephebi (talk) 15:43, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

George Samuel Bentley[edit]

As far as I am aware George Samuel Bentley is probably George Bentley (publisher). Samuel was the name of George Bentley's uncle. The London Standard Newspaper was in 1890 called "The Standard", but I have no knowledge of Bentley's involvement, nor can I find any evidence that Bentley was indeed buried in Highgate Cemetery, so I have remarked this entry out. It is an established fact that "The Standard" changed ownership quite a few times after the death of James Johnstone and before C. Arthur Pearson became owner. JHvW 20:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Highgate Cemetery Act 2022[edit]

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2022/1/introduction/enacted Kaihsu (talk) 10:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]