Talk:Khazars

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The meaning of Khazar[edit]

This is just a prediction, it would need further research, but I propose that the word Khazar came from the Persian word 'hezâr', or one of the variants, meaning one thousand. Therefore, I propose that it took the meaning of 'great' in Khazar, where the Khazar Khaganate simply means the Great Khaganate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 14:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talkcontribs) [reply]

You may be right but we need WP:RS Andre🚐 16:01, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Of course and in the future I will see what I can find. My theory is backed up by the spread of that Persian root, from Hungarian [1] to Nepali [2]. I also checked the wikipedia topic article of Hazar, and it says that in Turkish, they call the Khazars as Hazar, strengthening my theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 13:00, 6 February 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talkcontribs) [reply]
"Róna-Tas connects qasar with Kesar, the Pahlavi transcription of the Roman title Caesar." I'm almost certain that this explanation is folk etymology, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 13:18, 6 February 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talkcontribs) [reply]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/8/8b/20121028144343%21Davestar.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vurzibigjo (talkcontribs) 13:47, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Salmin[edit]

I've retained the addition of text re the Chuvash. An initial look over the text does not inspire confidence as to its use as an RS. It lies wholly outside international scholarship on the Khazars, lacks documentary rigour sourced, and the publication venue is obscure. The material added throws no light on the topic, and the idea of a popular beloief of origins among the Chuvash is neither here nor there (and it is not clear from pp1-2 where this comes from).Nishidani (talk) 22:26, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the highly probable is now clarified, I've reverted the page to the state before these intrusive sock disturbances. Feel welcome to repatch in any intermediate edits that actually improved the earlier text we must start from again.Nishidani (talk) 09:34, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Garbled English and WP:OR[edit]

The latter based upon the assertion of the Persian historian Istakhri the Khazar language was different from any other known tongue. However, he contradicts himself by linking the Khazar language to the Bulgar language, which is known to be a part of the Oghur Turkic group.

  • The sentence is garbled, the latter ('latter' means one of two whereas the antecdents are three; in a new sentence it is not clear what is being referred to: thirdly there is no source used for asserting, if that is what the editor wants to put over, that Istakhri 'contradicted himself'). In short some sentence has been fudged up without attending to the sources already existing. It should be removed.Nishidani (talk) 10:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Translating the infobox map[edit]

The map used in the infobox is in what seems to be German, I think it would make sense to use an English version since this is an English page. EldritchEmpress (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]